On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 06:00, Paul Hammant wrote: > > +1 for Phoenix becoming a top level project.
think I should clarify my point of view: -0; not for me to decide. I disagree with the idea though. > As well .... > > * Excalibur bits go to Commons or elsewhere, apart from the bits used by one or >other container, > which go with that container. (There's bits already moved to Jakarta Commons which shouldn't move to Apache Commons unless they move from Jakarta Commons to there as well. IMHO. Otherwise I agree.) > * Merlin leaves Avalon CVS. -0 (again, if the merlin developers all want to leave I'm not in the way). It is in-scope for avalon, provides useful features no other container provides, is in use and in development. I'm +1 on it going to a proposal or scratchpad area though. > * Logkit goes to top level? my gut feeling says the logkit community isn't quite big enough to warrant its own PMC; I think probably the best PMC to manage it is the Commons PMC. Where it winds up site-wise (ie logkit.apache.org, avalon.apache.org/logkit, jakarta.apache.org/avalon/logkit, commons.apache.org/logkit).....I'm in favor of logkit.apache.org. > Avalon becomes Avalon-Framework, which I've said over and over again is the only >level at which > compataibility between containers is guaranteed (and that we all agree on). Some >containers have > xml component lacing, some another type of xml lacing, yet others have _no_ meta >data. All are > fine. Focus people. I think avalon should aim to provide not only avalon framework, but also a container (at least one, more if sensible technically) that allows you to use avalon framework. > No people from the new phoenix group do not have automatic rights on commit to >Avalon. If they > were there (committing before) they remain IMHO. I'd say they do get privileges; probably the best idea is to ask each phoenix committer what they want if any phoenix breakout goes forward. cheers, - Leo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
