On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 04:54  PM, Paul Hammant wrote:
1) Power's that be: Please let me appeal on Peter's behalf
 and ask if you may see fit to look past this current episode.
I think the "powers that be" don't want to have to be known by that hierarchy-sounding word (after the long discussion the other night at the apache town mtg @ apachecon). From offline discussions, I believe it is more than "this current episode"

2) I use Peter's projects in my open source / proprietary /
 commercial applications.
I do to. Many people do. But as I've come to have a much greater realization of in the past few days, Apache is about /FAR/ more than just code. The community surrounding the code is priority 1.

3) I have been helped by Peter in the past. I found his help very useful.
All of my interactions with Peter have been very positive. I don't have anything derogatory to say about the man.

4) Please let Peter return to his projects at Apache, he's not so bad.
My impression is that *THE ONLY THING* that Peter didn't do well enough was "playing well (enough) with others". Peter is /such/ a fountain of code, that it could be very difficult at times to be on equal footings. Peter would appear to dominate projects that he's involved in, to the detriment of building a community (at times). I *KNOW* that if any of us were to sit down with him and have a face-to-face discussion, things could be easily resolved. Email is just a very difficult medium at times since you miss so much that is conveyed non-verbally when discussing in person.

Peter, please remain. There are many of us that are able to work with you. That _want_ to work with you.
-pete
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