Hi, I also agree with Tom. I do not want to have Spring in the core or in any core parts.
BUT, even though you say it < 1%, I'd say its more than 70% at least here in Germany. I met lot of people here who are asking for Spring support, even though they are silent in mailing list. Spring, for some reason, is hot here. I even worry about bundling most of the data binding jars with our war dist. Don't u all complain about it. Jaxme itself has four jars which amounts to 1MB. I think we need to have a policy on data binding frameworks as well. So this leads us to think about how we can release a core part and let people extend it to be used with Spring or to let them use a different db framework that we support. Any ideas how we can bundle all these parts and any volunteers for Spring implementation ? -- Chinthaka Tom Jordahl wrote: > “I know it when I see it” – and Spring is over the line. J > > > > How many Axis2 users will use Spring? Hard to say, but I am betting that > <1% of users are using it right now. > > > > I am happy to have ‘extra’ code in axis2.jar that supports lots of other > technologies. That isn’t a steep price to pay. But if I am using the > ‘basics’ – SOAP processing, the Axis Data Binding, WSDL generation, > *maybe* WS-Addressing – I should have a small list of jars that I need > to run (whether the list is small right now is probably another discussion). > > > > Doesn’t that sound right? > > > > P.S. I am only dimly aware of Spring, I don’t even know what it really > does without a Google search, so I have nothing against Spring itself. > > > > -- > > Tom Jordahl > > Adobe ColdFusion Team > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* robert lazarski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:16 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [axis2] Spring Support > > > > Sure, I understand - that's why I proposed bringing back the extensions > directory. The problem is, however, where do you draw the line? > > Robert > http://www.braziloutsource.com/ > > On 5/9/06, *Tom Jordahl* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > I don't use Spring, so don't make me carry the spring jar file around > with Axis2 when I don't use it… > > > > -- > > Tom Jordahl > > Adobe ColdFusion Team > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Rajith Attapattu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > *Sent:* Monday, May 08, 2006 11:48 AM > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [axis2] Spring Support > > > > Robert, > > Ok, good then as a starting point we can use your code base as you have > already done some work on pauls stuff. > Yes the 2MB depency does concerns me as well. But it looks like a lot of > developers are using spring so it might not be that much of an issue > considering the fanfare we see out there for spring. > > How about pulling put the common code and refactoring the Message > Receivers? or you want to wait till u check in the stuff and then look > at it? > > I am not sure about Data binding as well and hopefuly somebody will fill > in the gap here. > > Regards, > > Rajith > > On 5/8/06, *robert lazarski* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > I've been using Spring with axis2 since .92, although in a way not > everybody seems to like. > > I'm working a lot on adding Spring support via a Message Reciever, but > wanted to wait till post 1.0 . . I've mostly got it working. I'm basing > this work of of paul's work he did last july though some things cleary > won't work today as they were coded back then. I'm hoping to have > something ready to commit this week, of course after discussions on the > list. I still need to do the junit tests and work out how spring does > annotations. > > This is good time to lay out the issues: > > 1) Spring is licensed under apache 2.0 . > 2) Its yet another dependancy, the main spring.jar being about 2 megs. > 3) We had an extensions directory, and this may be a good time to bring > it back. > 4) I'm unsure how to integrate a spring message reciever with > databinding. Databinding at least for me is a critical factor. > > > Robert > > > > On 5/8/06, *Rajith Attapattu* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Dims, > > Thats true, we cannot and should not try to satisfy everybody. > Most people are looking for a magic wand that will create there code > with minimum effort as possible. > > Reading the thread on TSS I was sad to see that most people have missed > the boat about Web Services. > > These people expect nothing but to expose their **objects** as Web > Services using some framework with minimum effort as possible. > Thats as far as they are willing to go with Web Services. > > Regards, > > > Rajith > > > > On 5/8/06, *Davanum Srinivas* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Sure. > > - Beware of people with hidden agendas. You can never please everyone. > - Once you meet the objective criteria (say "add spring support"), you > will hear either ("it's not easy" or "it's complicated" in other words > "It does not meet my unspecified standards that are in my > head"-kind-of subjective criteria. > > thanks, > dims > > On 5/8/06, Rajith Attapattu < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Looking at the thread on TSS, it looks like some people are hell bent on >> having spring support. >> >> Paul already has some code (sandbox) attached to the jira AXIS2-272 >> I looked at them and it does provide a nice way of exposing spring beans as >> Web Services via a MessageReceiver >> >> I agree with Paul that there is some common code that could be refactored >> out in the message reciver classes. >> >> Shall we work on this code base and provide the support these people are >> asking for?? >> >> Regards, >> >> Rajith >> > > > -- > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ > > > > > > > > >
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