Yes, I am in sync with this thought too.. Not only Java and C , All the other related bits and pieces needed to be nicely arranged (Clean and Comfortable) in a hierarchy if Axis2* needed to be a TLP.
*(sub projects, tools etc But not dependent projects of course if they are mature enough.. I agree on that there will be gray areas on how to decide this but still.. i guess the community needed to agree on which part goes where ..) I do not think Axis2 currently doing a bad job on that, but still believes there is more to do.. Just my thoughts .. Thanks Lahiru Sandakith On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Afkham Azeez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I also agree that this is the proper thing to do, if ever Axis2 is > made a TLP. > > Azeez > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Ruchith Fernando < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> IMHO Axis2 project as a TLP should be both Java and C. >> >> Thanks, >> Ruchith >> >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Manjula Peiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 09:23 +0530, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >> >> It looks to me that the amount of confusion and frustration >> demonstrated >> >> in this thread is due to the mix of topics that we are discussing under >> >> the single topic, namely TLP. >> >> >> >> Some of the matters are not really TLP related. >> >> >> >> On one hand, there is talk about dropping C out of the picture, while >> >> making Axis2 a TLP. So natural tenancy from the C folks is a big NO. >> >> So is that equivalent to saying, no we do not need a TLP? Not really. >> > >> > Yes as a contributor to Axis2/C project my main concern is also on >> > dropping out Axis2/C out of the picture. If we separate out these two >> > projects it may affect Axis2/C project, and I don't think Axis2 will >> > benefited from that either. >> > >> >> >> >> Then there are questions related to activeness. And I do agree that it >> >> is a real problem, that needs to be solved. But IMHO I have doubts if a >> >> TLP would solve it. >> >> >> >> We need a clear list of things that we might be doing, when we become a >> >> TLP. And that list must obviously include the list of projects that >> will >> >> go under that TLP etc. >> >> >> >> Then we also need a separate list, that outlines problems that we have >> >> in the current setup. Including those that might be solved with TLP as >> >> well as those that might not. >> >> >> >> And if we can agree on the above, then we have to identify a media to >> >> collect those lists. A mailing list thread like this is distorting when >> >> it comes to listing things IMHO, so we might need a Wiki that everyone >> >> can edit. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Samisa... >> >> >> >> >> >> Ajith Ranabahu wrote: >> >> > missed general@ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> > From: Ajith Ranabahu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:04 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I should kick myself for not reading Axis2 mail frequently. I just >> >> > spent 20 minutes reading the complete thread and just throwing my 2 >> >> > cents. >> >> > >> >> > 1. I am +1 (not a vote, a token of agreement) on making Axis2 a TLP. >> >> > I have supported the decision in the PMC and I am still in support >> for >> >> > it. As Deepal says I don't understand why people are so much worried >> >> > about making Axis2 a TLP. We have kept all the major components as >> >> > subprojects so far and what difference would it make if we house them >> >> > in a different place ? >> >> > >> >> > 2. I have to agree to Dims that we have not been active as usual. >> >> > There are open Jira's and I haven't had time to fix the few things >> >> > that are pending in my niche projects (XMLSchema and tcpmon) let >> alone >> >> > in Axis2. However I personally feel that it would be easier to do a >> >> > better job (better than being done right now) if the teams are small >> >> > and focused rather than generic and all over the place. Again the >> >> > volume and the size clearly warrants a break just for the ease of >> >> > management. Mind you - it would not automatically fix the problem - >> >> > the site would not get fixed by magic and the Jiras would not vanish. >> >> > However it may make it easier to do so. >> >> > For the sake of the argument if a disgruntled user goes on commenting >> >> > about Axis2 he would be shooting at the ws pmc. But the WS pmc >> >> > consists of many other innocent PMCers that have nothing to do with >> >> > Axis2! if we have clear separation then the responsibilities are >> >> > clear. >> >> > >> >> > 3. I've been told that (before my time in Apache) that it is >> >> > discouraged to put projects in an umbrella of functionality, say like >> >> > in ws* or xml*. Instead Apache has embraced the >> >> > related-or-not-related-but-interesting type of project names with >> >> > 'projects' and not umbrellas. Just to make it clear does the words >> >> > jackrabbit, lucene, synapse, Mina or Lenya make any hint of what the >> >> > project actually does ? So i don't see the point of keeping Axis2 >> >> > under the umbrella of ws* anymore. if the ws* argument to hold I >> would >> >> > say all other Apache projects that provide the SOAP stack capability >> >> > should come under ws* as well (such as CXF) >> >> > >> >> > 4. I don't suppose there is anyone with a secret (evil ;P) agenda of >> >> > becoming the member of two PMC's supporting the split. But as I >> >> > pointed out earlier ws has grown out of its bounds and its time we >> >> > split things up for the sake of managing the complexity. Who we put >> as >> >> > the chair is a different question and hopefully would be selected the >> >> > democratic way (or by just looking at the mail count :D) >> >> > >> >> > For my final conclusion I am in support of this proposal. >> >> > >> >> > Ajith >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Davanum Srinivas < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Though given Paul's and other people's response. >> >> >>> >> >> >> Dims, my response was a light-hearted comment on the situation, and >> >> >> made no reference to whether or not Axis2 should be a TLP. I'm sorry >> >> >> if you took it in a way it wasn't meant to be taken, but I certainly >> >> >> wasn't making any comment against the proposal. I am in favour of >> >> >> making Axis2 a TLP, and I'm surprised if anything I have said led >> you >> >> >> or anyone else to think otherwise. >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Paul Fremantle >> >> >> Co-Founder and CTO, WSO2 >> >> >> Apache Synapse PMC Chair >> >> >> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair >> >> >> >> >> >> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org >> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Ajith Ranabahu >> >> > >> >> > Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its >> >> > creative pursuits. 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