On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Amila, > > Why do you think Synapse went TLP? Honestly I have no idea. But some one working closely with Synapse would give the exact Answer. On one hand Synapse is different from other WS common projects since it was graduated from incubator. And also if someone from Synapse can describe the pros/crons they got going for a TLP from WS commons project, that may help in this discussion. thanks, Amila. > > > thanks, > dims > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Ajith Ranabahu > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > See my comments inline. > > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Amila Suriarachchi > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> hi, > >> > >> By going through all these discussions what I can think of is that going > for > >> TLP neither make it better nor worse. > >> > >>> Ok why do you want to move Axiom out from Axis2 , because it has a big > >>> advantage when it is there in WS than in Axis2. > >> > >> yes. The advantage here is that they have separate svn and they can have > >> independent releases. Axis2 can depends on particular Axiom Version > while > >> people developing Axiom. or Rampart/Sandesha can use a pirticular > >> Axis2 version (if need) and can have independent releases. > >> > >> So in this scene WS project has broken things into separate manageable > >> components with the time. Of course this has happened generally with the > >> time and may happen in future as well. > >> > >> What is the big management advantage we get moving them to TLPs? > > > > Clarification here. There is not going to be axiom.apache.org or > > rampart.apache.org. Only Axis2 is going to move to a TLP and directly > > related sub projects will be under that as subprojects. > > > > > >> I agree that there are a lot of jiras and incomplete web sits. The > reason > >> for this is lack of time committees getting to work on these project due > to > >> various personal reasons. So I think this is a different issue which can > not > >> be addressed by going for TLP. > >> > >> For an example both Ajith and Chinthaka were very active committers in > this > >> project. But now they only participate in discussions. Can we expect any > >> change after going TLP? Lets say Deepal going to fix 50 issues after > going > >> TLP, why he can not do it now? (Here I have nothing make personal I try > to > >> explain what I want to say) > > > > > > True - As I have mentioned numerous times earlier there is not going > > to be any magic that solves > > our problems when Axis2 is moved to TLP. Instead we get a focused > > commiterbase and a PMC. When we attract > > committers we get to them to a more focused project. There is not > > going to be anything new happening > > with the current committers. instead we spare the confusion to all the > newbies. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > Anyway, why I don't agree is I don't see a problem with the current > >>> > way. Even if there is a problem, I still don't see how things will be > >>> > better if we go to multiple TLPs. > >>> My concern is , Axis2 does not get what it is supposed to get. It is > >>> just stay inside something called WS. While some other Web service > >>> project acting as TLP. > >> > >> Well, are you saying that being a TLP a prestigious status? Of course > this > >> is a personal thing and I am not thinking like that. If so that is a > >> different concern. > > > > There is a sense of independence and an expanded state of visibility > > in being a TLP. Why do you > > think the new projects graduating from incubator want to go TLP > > directly rather than hanging around as > > subprojects of an umbrella ? why is it that we see most of the > > donated projects (say hadoop and lucene from Yahoo or > > xmlbeans from BEA) becoming TLP's rather than settling down as > > subprojects ? IMHO the expanded visibility > > gives better opportunities to market themselves and also help them > > increase their focused commiterbase. > > > >> > >> > >> thanks, > >> Amila. > >>> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ajith Ranabahu > > > > Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its > > creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain > > too little falls into lazy habits of thinking - Albert Einstein > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Amila Suriarachchi WSO2 Inc. blog: http://amilachinthaka.blogspot.com/
