IMHO Axis2 project as a TLP should be both Java and C. Thanks, Ruchith
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Manjula Peiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 09:23 +0530, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >> It looks to me that the amount of confusion and frustration demonstrated >> in this thread is due to the mix of topics that we are discussing under >> the single topic, namely TLP. >> >> Some of the matters are not really TLP related. >> >> On one hand, there is talk about dropping C out of the picture, while >> making Axis2 a TLP. So natural tenancy from the C folks is a big NO. >> So is that equivalent to saying, no we do not need a TLP? Not really. > > Yes as a contributor to Axis2/C project my main concern is also on > dropping out Axis2/C out of the picture. If we separate out these two > projects it may affect Axis2/C project, and I don't think Axis2 will > benefited from that either. > >> >> Then there are questions related to activeness. And I do agree that it >> is a real problem, that needs to be solved. But IMHO I have doubts if a >> TLP would solve it. >> >> We need a clear list of things that we might be doing, when we become a >> TLP. And that list must obviously include the list of projects that will >> go under that TLP etc. >> >> Then we also need a separate list, that outlines problems that we have >> in the current setup. Including those that might be solved with TLP as >> well as those that might not. >> >> And if we can agree on the above, then we have to identify a media to >> collect those lists. A mailing list thread like this is distorting when >> it comes to listing things IMHO, so we might need a Wiki that everyone >> can edit. >> >> Thanks, >> Samisa... >> >> >> Ajith Ranabahu wrote: >> > missed general@ >> > >> > >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > From: Ajith Ranabahu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:04 PM >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP >> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org >> > >> > >> > I should kick myself for not reading Axis2 mail frequently. I just >> > spent 20 minutes reading the complete thread and just throwing my 2 >> > cents. >> > >> > 1. I am +1 (not a vote, a token of agreement) on making Axis2 a TLP. >> > I have supported the decision in the PMC and I am still in support for >> > it. As Deepal says I don't understand why people are so much worried >> > about making Axis2 a TLP. We have kept all the major components as >> > subprojects so far and what difference would it make if we house them >> > in a different place ? >> > >> > 2. I have to agree to Dims that we have not been active as usual. >> > There are open Jira's and I haven't had time to fix the few things >> > that are pending in my niche projects (XMLSchema and tcpmon) let alone >> > in Axis2. However I personally feel that it would be easier to do a >> > better job (better than being done right now) if the teams are small >> > and focused rather than generic and all over the place. Again the >> > volume and the size clearly warrants a break just for the ease of >> > management. Mind you - it would not automatically fix the problem - >> > the site would not get fixed by magic and the Jiras would not vanish. >> > However it may make it easier to do so. >> > For the sake of the argument if a disgruntled user goes on commenting >> > about Axis2 he would be shooting at the ws pmc. But the WS pmc >> > consists of many other innocent PMCers that have nothing to do with >> > Axis2! if we have clear separation then the responsibilities are >> > clear. >> > >> > 3. I've been told that (before my time in Apache) that it is >> > discouraged to put projects in an umbrella of functionality, say like >> > in ws* or xml*. Instead Apache has embraced the >> > related-or-not-related-but-interesting type of project names with >> > 'projects' and not umbrellas. Just to make it clear does the words >> > jackrabbit, lucene, synapse, Mina or Lenya make any hint of what the >> > project actually does ? So i don't see the point of keeping Axis2 >> > under the umbrella of ws* anymore. if the ws* argument to hold I would >> > say all other Apache projects that provide the SOAP stack capability >> > should come under ws* as well (such as CXF) >> > >> > 4. I don't suppose there is anyone with a secret (evil ;P) agenda of >> > becoming the member of two PMC's supporting the split. But as I >> > pointed out earlier ws has grown out of its bounds and its time we >> > split things up for the sake of managing the complexity. Who we put as >> > the chair is a different question and hopefully would be selected the >> > democratic way (or by just looking at the mail count :D) >> > >> > For my final conclusion I am in support of this proposal. >> > >> > Ajith >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Though given Paul's and other people's response. >> >>> >> >> Dims, my response was a light-hearted comment on the situation, and >> >> made no reference to whether or not Axis2 should be a TLP. I'm sorry >> >> if you took it in a way it wasn't meant to be taken, but I certainly >> >> wasn't making any comment against the proposal. I am in favour of >> >> making Axis2 a TLP, and I'm surprised if anything I have said led you >> >> or anyone else to think otherwise. >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Paul Fremantle >> >> Co-Founder and CTO, WSO2 >> >> Apache Synapse PMC Chair >> >> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair >> >> >> >> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Ajith Ranabahu >> > >> > Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its >> > creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain >> > too little falls into lazy habits of thinking - Albert Einstein >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- http://blog.ruchith.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
