A few quick comments:

1) I don't think things are as bad as some of this thread has implied. There are always ebbs and flows of time and effort on projects, and although there ARE a lot of open JIRAs, etc, it's not as if nothing has been getting done - for instance, 1.4.1 wasn't very long ago at all! That said, it is certainly true that regardless of the structure we end up with, it would be great if we could tighten our focus, reduce the JIRA count, and generally move towards higher quality across the project(s).

2) I do still think a separate TLP is a good idea for Axis and its subordinate technologies - in other words things that ONLY work with Axis2, like a) modules, and b) transports. I think commonly used libraries like XmlSchema and Axiom and Neethi should remain in WS, since they're also used outside of Axis2 by Abdera, CXF, etc. etc. So basically I'm still pushing for my original proposal. :)

3) As you may have noticed if you're on general@, I posted a draft proposal to promote Axis2 to TLP, and move Rampart, Sandeshsa, Kandula, Savan, and transports over there - this at least gives us something concrete to look at. Please feel free to comment/edit at will, or to put up alternates.

Thoughts?

--Glen

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