Betty; There are Moura's in Sao Pedro and Santo Espirito on Santa Maria that I am related to. If you ever make a connection to those lines, please, get back to me. Sam in Ca
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bbffrrpp Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:34 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MOURA surname from Azores to MA / US Hi Shirley, Betty V., and Sam, Thank you. I wish there were more discussions on the MOURA name. (In US census records I've also seen MORA.) If some of the MOURA's were in CA ~1900-1940, and my "Frank" MOURA didn't arrive till the 1920's, perhaps he had relatives in Alameda County and that is why he moved there. I've been on the Azores List for 4-5 years, and researchers there have mentioned a few times that my MOURA's probably came from Santa Maria. I've never followed through with that. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (P.S. During our "lean years" (before we met), I called them "air sandwiches" (nothing between the 2 pieces of bread). My husband says he called them "sandwishes" (wishing that there was something between the 2 pieces of bread).) On Apr 18, 4:51 pm, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Shirley, The Mouras that I am looking for all lived in the Niles, Decoto area. I don't have too much information on them. It seems there was a falling out between the Moura and the Pimentel families and they stopped speaking . > This is what I have Antonio Moura married Francisca Gatardo they had a daughter Rose who married Frank Pimentel their daughter Mary was the only one I knew. She was born march 1921. She married Silvanio Re. Her grand mother was Mary Garcia Pimentel > I don't know very much about the Garcias and Pimentels and know nothing about the Mouras > Rose Moura Pimentel died around 1930-31 and mary lived with her grandmother Mary Garcia Pimentel and her father Frank. The Garcias came from Pico but I have no idea what island the others came from. Frank Pimentel had brothers Joe and Enos. these families all lived all their lives in Niles and Decoto. I hope some out there is connected to these Mouras and is willing to share their info with me, > Betty Vyeda > ---- Shirley Allegre <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I have MOURA from Sao Miguel, Azores. They were originally from Santa > > Maria, Azores. > > My friend's mother was Mary MOURA. She lived near Decoto. (I think the > > name of the town was Alviso. I > > believe there were two ALVISOs in California). > > My paternal grandmother, my father, me, and my children all lived in DECOTO, > > CA. > > > Shirley > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Cc: "Betty" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:32 PM > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MOURA surname from Azores to MA / US > > > hi here are some more tidbits about the Moura family. I have a Rose Moura > > married to Frank Pimrntel living in Alameda County, in the town of Decoto > > . > > her father was Antonio Bernardo de Moura born Jan 1, 1858 and died june 28, > > 1940 in Alameda Co. Frank and Rose Moura had a daughter Mary born March > > 1921. I don't know what Island these Mouras are from . > > > Betty Vyeda > > ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > This month I have received new tidbits of information about the MOURA > > > family > > > my (now) husband is descended from. I'll just type up a brief summary > > > of > > > what the family seems to be. To start with, this is the very brief > > > description: > > > > Francisco "Frank' MOURA, father, b~1870 Azores > > > (unknown parents, or place of birth) > > > Philomena / Filomenia (ROSE), mother, b~1875 Azores > > > (unknown parents, but they reportedly born in Madeira) > > > CH: > > > Elsie (Elsa??) MOURA, b~1891 reportedly Sao Miguel > > > Rosa MOURA, b~1893 reportedly in Sao Miguel > > > Francisco "Frank" MOURA, b~1893 in Sao Miguel > > > Manuel MOURA, b~1895 ????? in Sao Miguel > > > Carolina MOURA, b~1896 in Sao Miguel > > > > ~1903 Elsie MOURA arrives in MA as a 12-yr-old to be an indentured-servant > > > for a family in Boston. At some point she married Antonio "Tony" > > > PACHECO, > > > and they married in Cambridge, MA, ~1911, and lived there. * > > > > ~1905 Rosie MOURA arrives in MA, possibly also as a 12-yr-old, possibly > > > also > > > to be an indentured-servant for a family in the Boston area. At some > > > point > > > Rosie marries in Somerville to Charles PERRY (probably PEREIRA). > > > > ~1912, the mother, Mrs. "Phoebe" MOURA, and her youngest daughter, > > > Carolina > > > "Carrie" MOURA, arrive in MA / US, and settle in Cambridge. Possibly > > > they come over for Elsie's wedding, as she reportedly had saved money and > > > paid for their passage. > > > > ~1919, "Frank" MOURA arrived in MA/US. IF I have found the correct man, > > > the 1920 census has him arriving as a married man, with a wife, Anna, and > > > 4 > > > young children. This census shows him in New Bedford, MA. He > > > reportedly moved to CA, and someone just found him in the 1930 census > > > living in Oakland, CA, which is next to San Francisco. MOURA's in the > > > next > > > town, Hayward, CA, might be related to him. (Twins seem to run in > > > this > > > family, as he might have been a twin, and he had twins, and Elsie had > > > twins, > > > etc.) > > > > ~1919 ??, "Manny" MOURA arrives in MA/US. "Manny" has become a > > > mystery. > > > I can't find him in the 1920 census, and other researchers can't find him, > > > either - in any state. At some point, he moved to Brooklyn, NY, and > > > remained there. He hasn't been found in 1930 census for NY, either. > > > (However, there was a Manuel MOURA living in Hayward, CA, in 1930, but he > > > was 9 years older than "Frank." This "Manny" could have been a cousin, > > > or > > > an uncle, or some type of relative. One "guess" is that Frank and > > > Manny moved to CA together during 1920's, but Manny moved his family back > > > to NY. > > > > 1920's, "Carrie" MOURA marries "Frank" MEDEIROS and they lived in > > > Somerville. * > > > > (From memory, the "Ellis Island Museum" has MOURA people arriving in US > > > and > > > heading to Brooklyn, NY. So, because Manny MOURA moved there at some > > > point, it's very possible he had relatives there.) (His father, > > > "Frank" > > > MOURA, is a mystery, also. He was reportedly a whaler, and he could > > > have > > > "died at sea." The 1920 census has his wife living in Cambridge, MA, as > > > a > > > widow.) > > > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > > * The 3 MOURA sisters all were widowed young. They lived in Cambridge, > > > MA, as widows until their passing ~1980. Their mother, "Phoebe," died > > > in > > > 1940's in Cambridge.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
