I'm sure we can get off in a tangent with all this information out there now
but I was very excited that you found Rosalina Silviera in the baptismal
records in Piedade.  I do know my grandfather was Thomas S. Bettencourt  (S
for Silveira).  I do know that his mother was called Senora Rosalina because
he told me.  I do know she lived in Piedade all her life in the house that
is still there.  That I know for sure.  I know the date of his birth and
death. Where he was born and where he died. from our family records.  I
would like to know who his mother's parents were and if she lived with
them.  I would like to know for sure if my grandfather was John Bettencourt
of the Nossa Senora da Piedade parish and if there are records on him. I
don't know if you can help me Eric with any of this.  Thanks.  Deanna
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:52 PM, eric edgar <noblankt...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> There is a Enos family Tree at Ancestry.com that shows a Rosalina Augusta
> of Piedade, Pico. It shows a son as Antonio Silveira Bettencourt b Sep 1870
> . This Antonio also came to California. However when referencing him on a
> shiplist, he tells his birthplace is Santo Amaro, Pico. He is not found in
> the parish records there.
>
> The big question is, what documents are you basing your search on? Most of
> the trees on Ancestry are undocumented junk. They usual hunt similar sound
> names on other trees and "borrow" the information for their own. It's as
> unrelaible as the majority of the Familysearch trees.
>
> You should carefully list out all the documented data you have ( birth,
> marriage, death records Obits , shiplists, etc)
>
> then list any family stories that might relate to the origin
>
> Eric Edgar
>   On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Deanna Enos <dee59...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   Yes, Eric.  Thomas is her son.  I have found that he was born Dec 22,
>> 1867. in Piadade, Pico.  That must be her.  Rosalina was his mother.  What
>> was the name of her Silviera parents?  What dates are on the baptismal
>> records.  Was she baptized in the Catholic Nossa Senora da Piadade church?
>> or was that even built then?
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 5:49 PM, eric edgar <noblankt...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Deanna,
>>>
>>> There is only one Rosalina in the parish records of Piedade that has a
>>> Silveira parent.
>>>
>>> Perhaps more information from you would get better results
>>>
>>> Is Thomas Bettencourt her son ?
>>>
>>> Eric Edgar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Deanna Enos <dee59...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Eric but I'm not sure of how your information might connect
>>>> Jose Silveira 1761-1811 and Maria Conceicao  1765 - 1857 .  You have
>>>> record of Rosalina Conceicao.  In my mind, I can't fit that all
>>>> together.  It sounds like dates are all important here and I can see
>>>> how that is so, but on the islands, They know the stories, but I don't
>>>> speak Portuguese.
>>>> When I was in Piadade several years ago, I found the family house and
>>>> said "Me Avu is Thomas Bettencourt". and they knew I was trying to
>>>> tell them that my Grandfather was Thomas Bettencourt and kindly
>>>> invited us in for wine and sweetbread.  We could smile and hug and
>>>> enjoy the food but there was nothing else we could say to each other.
>>>> I'm not sure I'm going with all this.
>>>>
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