*Yes Nancy, * *There were certain families that you didn't marry into. I remember my Father forbidding my sister to go out on a date with the son of a family friend who was also from Flores. We kids didn't know the reason at the time. It was"OLD COUNTRY genetic engineering. The oldtimers just kept track which families had problems and who NOT to marry. Actually, the disease is named after a Machodo family from Sao Miguel and a Joseph family from Flores. You just had to be careful which cousins you married * * I have one set of great grand parents who were first cousins: Francisco Victorino de Vasconcellos and Anna Filizarda de Vasconcellos. Their fathers were brothers: Francisco Ignacio de Vasconcellos and Nicolau Antonio de Vasconcellos. I had a first cousin, daughter of my father's sister, who recently died shortly before her 99th birthday. She had 3 siblings all of who were in their 90's when they died.
* *Ther were probably more "arranged marriages" for genetic reasons than you might think. * *John Vasconcelos * On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM, nancy jean baptiste < fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote: > My Furtado Cardoso great grandparents were first cousins on Pico....their > line is FILLED with cousin marriages....over and over through the > generations. While there are no obvious problems from this I suspect that > things like diabetes and heart disease are increased in these close lines. > their daughter married a man whose parents were from Sao Jorge and Santa > Maria....their son, my father married my mom whose complete line is from > Sao Jorge......I've found many surnames between my mom's Sao Jorge line and > my dad's fathers Sao Jorge line......cousins? Maybe distant ones....I don't > know. > > I read that Flores has the highest incidence of Machado Joseph disease > found among the Azorean people and it is attributed to the frequency of > inbreeding. Sometimes things are ok....sometimes not. > > Nancy Jean > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 13:42:28 -0700 > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree > From: gfsjo...@gmail.com > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > > Doug, > Cousin Marriages are common on Flores because it is such a small Island. I > have cousin marriages on both sides of my family tree. If the genes are > good, superior decendants can be produced. I have some first cousins on my > father's side that married. One of their children married the child of > another first cousin of mine making them second cousins who married. This > couple had 4 children all of whom are college graduates. One of these four > children is now a professor at Boston University. > John Vasconcelos > > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote: > > I ran across an old document I had translated about 15 years ago and took > another look. > My first notation was that this couple was related in the second degree. I > never noted whether it was by consanguinity or affinity. > But usually if I didn't note it, it was by consanguinity. > > Well, my second look proved important because I had missed an important > word "duplicado" (duplicate). > > In case you never knew, this means not only they were first cousins, but > first cousins in two different ways. > If you think about it, that means they each shared all four of their > grandparents. They had no ancestors other than what they shared. > Talk about in-breeding. > > Who was this couple? It was the Capitão-mor of Angra. The highest military > rank available. > His name was Manuel Homem da Costa e Noronha Ponce de Leão. > > Find him in any Terceira nobility book to see his illustrious ancestry. > > One might wonder whether their children were born healthy. Well, I don't > know all the facts yet, but I do know they had 10 children. > Three possibly died young - at least I haven't yet noticed them listed as > adults at marriage or as godparents. > A few seemed to have average life spans of at least 60 years. Not yet > sure of the rest. > > I do know they have many descendants today, including some of my cousins. > > Just think how this combined DNA might affect the Family Finder results. > > I just thought it was interesting. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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