Fred & all others reading his post,
 
Basically what you have written is true. However, as a registered nurse who 
 cares for neonates in the ICU, I have to clarify what you said about 
cousins  marrying rarely leading to birth defects or genetic diseases.  While 
there  may be many times that such problems do not occur, at some point the  
intermarrying does lead to "birth defects" or "genetic diseases" often in the  
form of inborn errors of metabolism or other obscure defects that are not  
obviously apparent to the casual observer.  Sometimes these "defects" do  
not declare themselves for a couple of generations.  
 
Lisa
 
 
In a message dated 11/4/2013 7:21:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
fsouz...@comcast.net writes:

this is  basic science.    


Your DNA is only 50% from one parent, and that goes back forever.  So the 
mixes keep happening.  Just like one brother can have blue  eyes and blonde 
hair and the other one green eyes and brown hair, none of us  (except 
identical twins) have the same DNA.  However, if the  preponderence is of one 
and 
that is true of someone else, you are probably  related through one parent 
(sometimes in Portuguese and other European  lineages, through both because 
second and third cousins often married) which  is not illegal (even in the US) 
and rarely leads to birth defects or genetic  disease like cystic fibrosis 
(which comes from DNA that is too much alike and  may carry recessive genes 
that when combined are no longer recessive but  become dominant)  Perhaps 
someone can clarify for me how the DNA  genealogy test works since it would 
appear the only way to get much of a clear  lineage is if there is a 
preponderence of "similar" genes.


Fred

On Nov 3, 2013, at 8:09 PM, _hisalv@aol.com_ (mailto:his...@aol.com)  wrote:



 




Cheri,
 
 
 
 
 
 

Amusing and confusing!  When I talked to you on the phone, I asked  if it 
would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I  assumed we 
would be identical, and you said it might be  different.  You were right. I 
have 97.59% Western European and 2.41%  Africa.  My brother has 86.76.% 
Western Europe and 13.24% Middle  Eastern (Northern Africa)  On the map, my 
Africa is in the French West  Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast Ghana 
and Nigeria.  and the  southern part including South Africa, Mozambique and 
Kenya.  It even  list the African tribes (if that's what their called?). 
Bantu Kenya, Bantu  So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka.   My brother doesn't 
list  any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern.  As far as I know  
all my grandparents were Portuguese, except I don't know about my  
grandfathers parents.  I'm assuming his mother was Portuguese, but his  father 
could 
have been some seaman on a ship that docked in Angra.  My  grandfather had 
blue eyes.
 
I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff.  All I wanted  was to 
find my grandfathers "incognito's"
 
Helen Salvador
Fremont, CA


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From: Cheri Mello <_gfscherim@gmail.com_ (mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com) >
To: azores  <_azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) >
Sent:  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna  results


Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish,  and 
Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the  reference 
population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until  they roll 
out the new Population Finder with more reference populations,  there not much 
to say about the Population Finder, except that it is  amusing. Cheri
On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, "Chuck Nostrome" <_cnsport@aol.com_ 
(mailto:cnsp...@aol.com) > wrote:

Doug,
 
I keep trying to figure it out too.  I came out 99.23%  French.
My fathers parents were from the Azores.  His mother's side had  some 
Flemish names.
My mothers parents were Irish and English.
I guessed maybe the Irish were from France.
I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in  
there from a distant cousin.  Along that line the Basque provinces  are in 
France and Spain.
 
I now have kinder thoughts about the French.  Genealogy is  humbling.  I 
guess it goes to what part of the DNA we  inherited.
 
Pat Nostrome
Irvine, California
 


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Sent:  Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree  Dna results


 
My father's came up as 93% Spanish.
Mine is 97% French.


Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I  
suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French.  Interesting 
math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French.















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