I have completed four family finders with Family Tree DNA on myself, my
sister, my late Father, and his 1st Cousin.
The known ethinecty on each are: My Father: 100% Acorean
Portuguese
My
Sister: 50% Acorean Portuguese 50% French Canadian
Me :
50% Acorean Portuguese 50% French Canadian
My
Fathers 1st Counsn: 50% Acorean Portuguese 50% French Canadian
The Population Finder shows: My Father: 98.9% Spanish
My
Sister: 99.44% French
Me:
92.54% French and 7.46% Iranian, Jewish, Mozabite, Palestinian, Bedouin,
Bedouin South, Druze
My
father's 1st Cousin: 92.02% French, Spanish and 7.98% Adygei, Bedouin,
Druze, Iranian, Jewish, Mozabite, Palestinian
One thing I do know as well My Dads MtDNA is haplogroup L2 which is African
in origin and not Common in the Azores. My Dad 1st Cousin's mother was
French Canadian and as such is not in that group.
What you see above you would think that my sister and I would be the same
and My dad and his 1st Cousin would be somewhat close. May be over time we
will understand all of this.
PS. My sister and I got a brother/sister match J and all four of us showed
the correct relationship range in the matches.
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores
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Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 3:57 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Cheri,
Amusing and confusing! When I talked to you on the phone, I asked if it
would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I assumed we
would be identical, and you said it might be different. You were right. I
have 97.59% Western European and 2.41% Africa. My brother has 86.76.%
Western Europe and 13.24% Middle Eastern (Northern Africa) On the map, my
Africa is in the French West Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast
Ghana and Nigeria. and the southern part including South Africa, Mozambique
and Kenya. It even list the African tribes (if that's what their called?).
Bantu Kenya, Bantu So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka. My brother
doesn't list any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern.
I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff. All I wanted was to
find my grandfathers "incognito's"
Helen Salvador
Fremont, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish, and
Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the reference
population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until they roll
out the new Population Finder with more reference populations, there not
much to say about the Population Finder, except that it is amusing. Cheri
On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, "Chuck Nostrome" <cnsp...@aol.com> wrote:
Doug,
I keep trying to figure it out too. I came out 99.23% French.
My fathers parents were from the Azores. His mother's side had some Flemish
names.
My mothers parents were Irish and English.
I guessed maybe the Irish were from France.
I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in there
from a distant cousin. Along that line the Basque provinces are in France
and Spain.
I now have kinder thoughts about the French. Genealogy is humbling. I
guess it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited.
Pat Nostrome
Irvine, California
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From: pico <p...@dholmes.com>
To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
My father's came up as 93% Spanish.
Mine is 97% French.
Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose
when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math:
Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French.
What it might be saying is that the Germans are lumped in with French.
And I suppose an English or Irish person would also be listed as Orkney.
Anyone know?
It would also seem that my Population Finder percentages should be more like
40% Spanish, 25% French (if the Germans are lumped with French), and maybe
23% Orkney (if Slovaks and Hungarians are lumped with Orkney), to equal my
97% Western European. And that designation alone is also in question, now
that my wife's test is back - Slovakia and Hungary are not in Western
Europe. They are in central. If someone from Moscow tested, would they be
Eastern European? I don't believe they have Central European so they are
lumped with western. But maybe should be lumped with eastern, since we're
talking about Slavs.
I'll have to look for a waiter to get another drink at this cocktail party.
Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
www.dholmes.com
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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
From: <p...@dholmes.com>
Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:57 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com
My wife's Population Finder results with her 100% Slovak ancestry came up as
90% Orkney.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
From: Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:17 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com
The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French,
Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are "fit" into one of those 4.
Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a
cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri
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