Hello,

I've spent some time studying Achada and Nordestinho, Nordeste records and 
I've seen both male and female interchange surnames.  example, Jose de 
Faria, I found his marriage record and first child born, using the name 
Jose Correa Pimentel.  His grandma was a Pimentel and his great grandma was 
a Correa.     I've also seen inter-change of names with Silva-Brandoa 
(Nordestinho), Simas-Resendes (Achada), and Pimentel-Resendes (Achada).  In 
most of these cases, they were simply using either the father or mothers 
surname.    In the case of Jose de Faria, it took a little extra work and 
going back in the family tree to figure it out. 

 As for the pais incognito, a DNA test could help elucidate your husband's 
pedigree.

As for the mother of Jose (the son), I can't make it out.  I tried looking 
for Joze de Almeida and ? da Conceicao's marriage record but I couldn't 
find it.  I looked in Sao Sebastiao and Agua Retorta

Here is Jose's baptism (father), left hand side; take a look at his 
maternal grandparents surnames.  I think it agrees with your original 
assumptions and findings regarding Jose and Luis de Almeida. Good work! 

http://goo.gl/NmK2X0       

brother Francisco de Almeida's baptism         http://goo.gl/tVR9n2 
         

brother Luis's baptism            http://goo.gl/hnn8jc
                                                                                
                             


On Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40:54 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>
>
> Upper left hand page- for JOZE 
>   
> I'm was searching for children born to Luiz D'Almeida from the parish in 
> Agua Retorta in Sao Miguel, (the same exact  parish as is  mentioned in 
> this record) and his wife Luiza de Jesus. 
>
> However,  I came across this record where the names of the grandparents 
> are so similar, that I wondered if Luiz D'Almeida is a brother to Jose 
> D'Almeida.   the name of the parents for both Luiz and Jose are both Jose 
> D'Almeida and both men's mother is Miguelina.  However, For Luiz the mother 
> is Miguelina De Torres and for this Jose the mother is Miguelina de Resende 
> (?) if I read it correctly.    Miguelina is not a common name so I wonder 
> if it IS the same person, it's,possible she used both names:  De Torres and 
> De Resende.   Any thoughts? 
>
> Can anyone help me out with the name of the mother of the baby in this 
> record, please?  The best I could make out was Jesnivea de Concinco(?). I 
> know that doesn't make sense) 
>
> There's several coincidences: both men came from the same parish; both men 
> have a father with the same name and a mother with the same first name 
> which is an uncommon name  and both men had wives with 
> Pais incognitos.  Ugh!    (So I came across my first encounter with Pais 
> incognito and I don't know if that's going to mean I hit a dead end.). It's 
> a shame because it's my husband's great grandmother 
>
>  Here's the record.  I appreciate any help. Thank you 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860_item1/P67.html
>  
>
> Maria Elena 

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