Hello Maria,

Glad I could help.  No, I do not have an index nor are they in my family 
tree.  I do have Resendes in my family tree from Achada.  
It's not difficult to find related records (baptism) of children from the 
same parents.  Once you find one, you can usually locate the others fairly 
quickly; provided the parents did not move to another parish.

Were you able to locate Jose's marriage to Miguelina?


On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:20:57 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for taking the time to write and sending this 
> information.  You have been so helpful in sending the links!  I did a 
> couple of happy dances this morning.  Thank you so much.  
>
> I noticed the priest didn't include Luis' parents but they are in the 
> other records.  How on earth did you find these so quickly.  It takes me a 
> long time going page by page.  Was there an index or do u have these people 
> in your tree?  I noticed the Resende name is in your email.  
>
> Maria Elena 
>
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Aaron Pereira <perei...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>
>   Hello,
>
> I've spent some time studying Achada and Nordestinho, Nordeste records and 
> I've seen both male and female interchange surnames.  example, Jose de 
> Faria, I found his marriage record and first child born, using the name 
> Jose Correa Pimentel.  His grandma was a Pimentel and his great grandma was 
> a Correa.     I've also seen inter-change of names with Silva-Brandoa 
> (Nordestinho), Simas-Resendes (Achada), and Pimentel-Resendes (Achada).  In 
> most of these cases, they were simply using either the father or mothers 
> surname.    In the case of Jose de Faria, it took a little extra work and 
> going back in the family tree to figure it out. 
>
>  As for the pais incognito, a DNA test could help elucidate your husband's 
> pedigree.
>
> As for the mother of Jose (the son), I can't make it out.  I tried looking 
> for Joze de Almeida and ? da Conceicao's marriage record but I couldn't 
> find it.  I looked in Sao Sebastiao and Agua Retorta
>
> Here is Jose's baptism (father), left hand side; take a look at his 
> maternal grandparents surnames.  I think it agrees with your original 
> assumptions and findings regarding Jose and Luis de Almeida. Good work! 
>
> http://goo.gl/NmK2X0       
>
> brother Francisco de Almeida's baptism         http://goo.gl/tVR9n2         
>
> brother Luis's baptism            http://goo.gl/hnn8jc
>                                                                               
>                                
>
>
> On Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40:54 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>>
>>
>> Upper left hand page- for JOZE 
>>   
>> I'm was searching for children born to Luiz D'Almeida from the parish in 
>> Agua Retorta in Sao Miguel, (the same exact  parish as is  mentioned in 
>> this record) and his wife Luiza de Jesus. 
>>
>> However,  I came across this record where the names of the grandparents 
>> are so similar, that I wondered if Luiz D'Almeida is a brother to Jose 
>> D'Almeida.   the name of the parents for both Luiz and Jose are both Jose 
>> D'Almeida and both men's mother is Miguelina.  However, For Luiz the mother 
>> is Miguelina De Torres and for this Jose the mother is Miguelina de Resende 
>> (?) if I read it correctly.    Miguelina is not a common name so I wonder 
>> if it IS the same person, it's,possible she used both names:  De Torres and 
>> De Resende.   Any thoughts? 
>>
>> Can anyone help me out with the name of the mother of the baby in this 
>> record, please?  The best I could make out was Jesnivea de Concinco(?). I 
>> know that doesn't make sense) 
>>
>> There's several coincidences: both men came from the same parish; both 
>> men have a father with the same name and a mother with the same first name 
>> which is an uncommon name  and both men had wives with 
>> Pais incognitos.  Ugh!    (So I came across my first encounter with Pais 
>> incognito and I don't know if that's going to mean I hit a dead end.). It's 
>> a shame because it's my husband's great grandmother 
>>
>>  Here's the record.  I appreciate any help. Thank you 
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860_item1/P67.html
>>  
>>
>> Maria Elena 
>
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