That said, I also reckon 400-600 sounds far too low!
Matt
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:52:54 -0000, Matt Hammond
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The statements attributes to Ashley Highfield seem to talk about *users*
(eg. measured as unique cookies) whereas the other numbers we're
comparing against here are being described as "usage" and "hits".
Just thought I'd point it out before we get in a mess :-)
Matt
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:38:19 -0000, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Thanks for that, I was pretty certain there was a mistake somewhere as I
said, I'd expect for a site as big as bbc.co.uk to get more than 4-600
hits
from people on their mobile phones (I have a low-tech Nokia 60-70, and
even
it's capable of viewing the beebs site, add opera mini and most of the
web
is available).
Now the question is the mistake in the reporting or in Ashley's
comments;
either mistakenly or, as the conspiracy nuts will no doubt think, on
purpose.
Vijay.
On 01/11/2007, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've been discussing this in the office, so I did some sums
Having a look at various (non-BBC) site stats I have access to, I'm
seeing
a 3-4% market share. Now on some of them, I know I'm counting towards
those
stats, but one particular site (with a 3.6% Linux usage) I don't look
at
regularly (I just fix broken code on rare occassions).
Even if we say bbc.co.uk has a 2% Linux usage, that's 340,000 users.
And
if we say that bbc.co.uk has a 0.1% Linux usage, that's 17,000.
Some stats have put Linux desktop usage at as low as 0.26%, so even if
we
take the 0.1% figure, I'd expect a lot more than 400-600!
I have a feeling that there's been a bit of a mistake made somewhere
down
the line :)
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*Subject:* [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again
Just read
this<http://www.tech.co.uk/computing/internet-and-broadband/news/bbc-not-in-bed-with-bill-gates-over-iplayer?articleid=36522951>
interview with Mr Highfield
"Highfield used the numbers of non-Windows users visiting bbc.co.uk as
justification for the corporation's XP-only release. "We have 17.1
million
users of bbc.co.uk in the UK and, as far as our server logs can make
out,
5 per cent of those [use Macs] and around 400 to 600 are Linux users.""
(via slashdot <http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/01/133259>)
Have tech.co.uk missed out a zero as I can't believe that the number of
Linux users is that low, I'd expect more people to visit the site on
their
mobile phones than that.
Unless perhaps most do as I do and go straight to news.bbc.co.uk and
bypass bbc.co.uk entirely (in which case using those numbers as
justification for ignoring iPlayer on Linux is bizarre; perhaps some
more
research into your audience is in order?).
Though it feels good to be a member of such an exclusive club, can we
have
the number of Linux users visiting news.bbc.co.uk please? That way we
can
see if Mr Highfield's claims stand up to scrutiny.
Vijay.
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