Agreed about the quality. Since the service is not officially sanctioned
they are going to have to do the encoding 'off-air'. And a 3-4Mbps MPEG2
feed is not a good starting point for doing further compression from.
While I don't know what the channel formally known as News 24 does with
their video streams, we encode our live video for BBC Arabic directly
from a 270Mbps SDI feed of the network output.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Compston
Sent: 13 May 2008 19:05
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming BBC channels
Moving away from the legal wrangles for a moment, I must say I'm
not too impressed with the quality of their streams...
Looking at my PC's network usage zattoo is using three times as
much bandwith (admittedly some will be upstream) than the FLV stream of
News 24 (sorry, News Channel) we're running tests on currently (beta
stream coming to news.bbc.co.uk soonish), but actually looks worse -
lots of blocking & buffering.
My PC is rather old, but the connection's not too bad - getting
around 5Mbps currently.
Rich.
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Brian Butterworth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The relevant part of the Copyrights and Patents Act 1988
(as Amended) is here:
http://www.jenkins.eu/copyright-(statutes)(1)/part-1-copyright-.asp#s73
<http://www.jenkins.eu/copyright-%28statutes%29%281%29/part-1-copyright-
.asp#s73>
It all boils down to the definition of 'cable' and
're-transmission by cable'. Interestingly the Act does not say
're-broadcast' by cable, it doesn't say it has to be in a partciular
format (DVB-S or analogue PAL, for example) and does not state that it
has to be a 'broadcast' (many to one) just a 're-tranmission'.
It also says that 'ee-transmission by cable include the
transmission of microwave energy between terrestrial fixed points' which
seems to cover wireless internet in my book...
2008/5/13 Robin Cramp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
From a user perspective viewing content in this
way is great, it provides another source of viewing; more importantly
online. I would think from a broadcaster perspective there is a sense of
split view on the subject. Broadcasting the stations as is gives them an
extra level of exposure, not to mention the advertisers too. Although
from a content owner perspective there is the age old issues about
copyright. I personally think that it will be the rights owners that
will have the biggest say in whether Zattoo should continue in their
current model, rather than the broadcasters pushing for change.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Barber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 May 2008 14:35
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Zattoo - live streaming
BBC channels
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Brian
Butterworth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://zattoo.com/
>
>
http://informitv.com/articles/2008/05/09/zattooclaimscopyright/
>
> "Zattoo, which is now offering live online
streams of the leading British
> terrestrial television channels, is claiming
it has the right to do so under
> the United Kingdom Copyright Act. Zattoo says
it "operates strictly
> legitimately on the basis of agreements with
broadcasters and the copyright
> law" but the British broadcasters say they
have no agreements with the
> streaming startup company. The law seems
ambiguous at best."
Interesting stuff. I can see how retransmission
is a good thing but
only through the right channels - i.e. if I were
to provide content to
the BBC or ITV, I would like it to be
transmitted professionally and
with a good level of quality.
Any views on this?
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