No comment. There are of course many ways to ensure unparliamentarily language is not used. The BBC has it's own. If you swear on this list for example, your trousers will fall down like a comedy clown. Cheers, jod
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Leitch Sent: 05 June 2008 10:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com Well done Etienne, A fantastic piece of work... But I would have to take issue with your view John, of Hansard being an entirely representative view of what went on in the various chambers... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7187907.stm ;-) ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John O'Donovan Sent: 04 June 2008 19:17 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com Hi - as part of the Digital Democracy project we will be looking at ways to improve the quantity and quality of coverage, as well as tagging and metadata developments, some of which will be automated and produce better metadata at source. One of the challenges here is that much of the metadata does not come from the BBC. Lining up transcripts and other metadata with video is a difficult to do reliably in an automated way as there is so much room for error. Also the captions available at source are not a replacement for the full transcript produced by Hansard. There is a very early overview of the principles for the DD project here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/02/digital_democracy.html The way MySociety have approached this simplifies a difficult task and makes the video more accessible as a result. It is a great way to democratise the process of democratising democracy Cheers, jod ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 04 June 2008 12:48 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Video recordings of the House of Commons on TheyWorkForYou.com Phil, 2008/6/4 Phil Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm sure one of the first computing acronyms I ever leant was GIGO... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGO Yes, I know it. Take a look at Etienne's reply for one aspect of the details and why the captions may also count as garbage. Another important point is that the video captioner they've put together matches video to Hansard, rather than just the captions - that is, to the official record of what was said, rather than what was actually said, which is an important distinction. I still can't help thinking that this should be done "at source". I thought Auntie was supposed to be give good tagging? Phil 2008/6/4 Phil Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: However, a clear text feed of the data would keep the data pure, surely? Seriously, where would the fun in that be? Phil 'timestamp-tastic' Wilson - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk <http://backstage.bbc.co.uk> discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002