So it is (stunning), and so it is (the same) :) I should have given XBMC more of a try. Ah well.
Dave. > From: Ian Forrester <ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk> > Reply-To: <backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:59:23 +0100 > To: <backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> > Subject: RE: [backstage] Fixing the iPlayer support in Plex > > My UI on XBMC is stunning, actually it's the same as Plex - > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cubicgarden/tags/xbmc > > I use to run XBMC on my Xbox and still have it for backup. > > Secret[] Private[x] Public[] > > Ian Forrester > Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D > 01612444063 | 07711913293 > ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk > [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Addey > Sent: 30 September 2009 16:50 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] Fixing the iPlayer support in Plex > > Heh! I've only just really explored both, having scraped along for ages > with a hacked Apple TV. But now my Mac Mini has arrived, I'm trying to > shape it into the media centre I've always dreamed of, hence my work on > the iPlayer plugin. And Plex has a prettier default UI that XBMC on OS > X, so I got distracted by its shiny shininess. You should give it a try > :) > > - Dave > >> From: Ian Forrester <ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk> >> Reply-To: <backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> >> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:41:29 +0100 >> To: <backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> >> Subject: RE: [backstage] Fixing the iPlayer support in Plex >> >> Ah see if the Plex guys didn't fork so far away they could have used >> XBMC's code. >> >> I say that as a massive fan of XBMC for 10 years and a regular users >> and contributor (so ignore my jest) >> >> Secret[] Private[x] Public[] >> >> Ian Forrester >> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D >> 01612444063 | 07711913293 >> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk >> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Addey >> Sent: 29 September 2009 17:53 >> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [backstage] Fixing the iPlayer support in Plex >> >> Hi Ian (and other posters), >> >> Many thanks for all the suggestions and ideas - much appreciated. I >> had originally tried to get the iPlayer RTMP streams playing inside a >> third-party Flash player, but nothing I tried would get them to play. > >> I did also take a look at the XBMC plugin for inspiration (Plex is >> forked from XBMC), but they seem to be using their own proprietary >> RTMP player, which isn't easily available for us to use in Plex. In >> the end I gave up with trying to get the raw streams to work outside >> of the original flash player. >> >> Instead, I'm using Plex's rather neat webkit page-cropping approach, >> which finds the iPlayer swf file on a page loaded from >> bbc.co.uk/iplayer and displays the page in cropped form to just show >> the video part of the player. >> I also did some digging around in the iPlayer javascript files and >> found that the iPlayer swf file has a Javascript API, which I've taken > >> advantage of for playing and pausing playback, and for tracking >> progress via JS callbacks. >> >> It's all working rather well (until the iPlayer site next changes at >> least), using the RSS and JSON feeds to obtain the programme info and >> then using this webkit approach for playback. >> >> If you'd like to give it a try, you can download Plex here (it's open >> source and free): >> >> http://www.plexapp.com/ >> >> The iPlayer plugin can be downloaded and installed from the in-app >> "App Store". >> >> It would still be good to access the RTMP streams directly - and this >> would probably be more reliable in the long term. Is there any magic >> involved in getting them to play? Has anyone found a third-party >> flash-based player (ideally with useful JavaScript hooks) for doing > so? >> >> Thanks again for the help! >> >> - Dave >> >>> From: Ian Forrester <ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk> >>> Reply-To: <backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> >>> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:55:23 +0100 >>> To: <backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> >>> Subject: RE: [backstage] Fixing the iPlayer support in Plex >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> Have a look at the XBMC iplayer plugin which you should be able to >>> leverage. >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/xbmc-iplayerv2/ >>> >>> I use it personally to watch iplayer from my home media centre (XBMC >>> 2.1) >>> >>> Secret[] Private[x] Public[] >>> >>> Ian Forrester >>> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D >>> 01612444063 | 07711913293 >>> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk >>> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian >>> Butterworth >>> Sent: 29 September 2009 07:06 >>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk >>> Subject: Re: [backstage] Fixing the iPlayer support in Plex >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/9/28 Dave Addey <listma...@addey.com> >>> >>> >>> Hi Backstage, >>> >>> I've been working on fixing the iPlayer plugin for the Mac OS X media > >>> centre app "Plex". The updated plugin seems to be working pretty >>> well >> >>> by reading the BBC RSS feeds and JSON feeds, but I have a few >>> questions: >>> >>> 1) Are there any issues with integrating iPlayer into an app like >>> Plex? (I'm not trying to work around the geographical restrictions >>> on >> >>> iPlayer access, I should add - I'm just providing a wrapper for the >>> iPlayer flash player from within Plex.) I'm aware that doing so >>> could >> >>> be likely to break at any time if the iPlayer site were to change. >>> (You can view Plex here: http://www.plexapp.com/) >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, this is the "make your stuff with our stuff" BBC Backstage line. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2) Assuming this isn't a problem legally, is there anywhere I can >>> find >> >>> a list of all of the potential subcategories / subgenres used by >>> iPlayer? I can see a list of those with at least one current >>> programme assigned to them, but I don't know if this list is > complete. >>> For example, Children's > Activities, Children's > Animation, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> I think you have to work it out from what's out there. >>> >>> >>> >>> 3) Is there a feed (RSS / JSON / something else) which can be used >>> for >> >>> searching? >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, do a search from the iPlayer page and scrape it for URLs. >>> >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search/?q=S >>> <http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search/?q=Manor> earchTerm >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any help! >>> >>> - Dave. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Brian Butterworth >>> >>> follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist >>> web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and >>> switchover advice, since 2002 >>> >>> >>> - >>> Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. 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