On Sunday 29 March 2009 19:16:56 Phil Stracchino wrote:
> Scott Barninger wrote:
> > Kern and I have had some offline discussion previously on this subject.
> > The current RPM build offers 2 options, one to place files with LSB
> > compliance and a second to place files as Kern has advocated and which is
> > how Bacula Systems is delivering binaries.
> >
> > My 2 cents worth is that packages published by the project on sourceforge
> > should respect LSB and distribution (linux or BSD) guidelines. The
> > advantages of this approach are:
> >
> > 1. we don't get emails from people complaining about file placement
> > 2. we don't suffer hesitation from people who are strongly in favor of
> > LSB 3. it creates a differentiator for Bacula Systems.
> >
> > On Sunday 29 March 2009 11:03:32 am Dan Langille wrote:
> >> Discussion trimed to devel & beta
>
> FWIW, I have *always* used the /opt/bacula layout.  It puts the entire
> Bacula installation in one place separate from everything else on the
> machine, and makes it trivial to (for example) install Bacula on an
> otherwise bare disk booted from a CD, then do a full system restore
> without overwriting any active files.  One could, for instance, boot
> from a Knoppix CD and copy /opt/bacula from an NFS share, or mount it
> from a USB stick (as we were discussing recently).
>
> The problem with slavish adherence to things like the LSB is that it
> isn't always the best solution for everything.
>
> "Our corporate policy says we always do this."
> "That's fine, but this won't work if you do that."
> "But corporate policy says..."
>
> One size does not fit all.  Standards are great, but sometimes you have
> to recognize that there are special cases for which the standard is not
> the best solution, and that sometimes trying to make them conform to
> "the standard" is actively harmful.  The trick is to recognize the
> occasions upon which applying "the standard" is not appropriate.

Yes, I completely agree with you.  If you ever have a disaster (I hope not), I 
think you will be better prepared to cope with it.

Packages that spray Bacula files all over the system (IMO) do a disservice to 
the users.  I pointed this out to the Ubuntu gurus, and their response was 
that /opt was for optional packages and since Bacula is part of our "system" 
that we ship, it is not appropriate to put it there.  

I think it is a mistake (possibly a big one) to spray the files of a system 
backup program all over your system, but then  I'm not going to dictate to 
anyone ...



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