On Sunday 29 March 2009 19:55:38 Ulrich Leodolter wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 18:44 +0100, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > On Sunday 29 March 2009 19:16:56 Phil Stracchino wrote:
> > > Scott Barninger wrote:
> > > > Kern and I have had some offline discussion previously on this
> > > > subject. The current RPM build offers 2 options, one to place files
> > > > with LSB compliance and a second to place files as Kern has advocated
> > > > and which is how Bacula Systems is delivering binaries.
> > > >
> > > > My 2 cents worth is that packages published by the project on
> > > > sourceforge should respect LSB and distribution (linux or BSD)
> > > > guidelines. The advantages of this approach are:
> > > >
> > > > 1. we don't get emails from people complaining about file placement
> > > > 2. we don't suffer hesitation from people who are strongly in favor
> > > > of LSB 3. it creates a differentiator for Bacula Systems.
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday 29 March 2009 11:03:32 am Dan Langille wrote:
> > > >> Discussion trimed to devel & beta
> > >
> > > FWIW, I have *always* used the /opt/bacula layout.  It puts the entire
> > > Bacula installation in one place separate from everything else on the
> > > machine, and makes it trivial to (for example) install Bacula on an
> > > otherwise bare disk booted from a CD, then do a full system restore
> > > without overwriting any active files.  One could, for instance, boot
> > > from a Knoppix CD and copy /opt/bacula from an NFS share, or mount it
> > > from a USB stick (as we were discussing recently).
> > >
> > > The problem with slavish adherence to things like the LSB is that it
> > > isn't always the best solution for everything.
> > >
> > > "Our corporate policy says we always do this."
> > > "That's fine, but this won't work if you do that."
> > > "But corporate policy says..."
> > >
> > > One size does not fit all.  Standards are great, but sometimes you have
> > > to recognize that there are special cases for which the standard is not
> > > the best solution, and that sometimes trying to make them conform to
> > > "the standard" is actively harmful.  The trick is to recognize the
> > > occasions upon which applying "the standard" is not appropriate.
> >
> > Yes, I completely agree with you.  If you ever have a disaster (I hope
> > not), I think you will be better prepared to cope with it.
> >
> > Packages that spray Bacula files all over the system (IMO) do a
> > disservice to the users.  I pointed this out to the Ubuntu gurus, and
> > their response was that /opt was for optional packages and since Bacula
> > is part of our "system" that we ship, it is not appropriate to put it
> > there.
> >
> > I think it is a mistake (possibly a big one) to spray the files of a
> > system backup program all over your system, but then  I'm not going to
> > dictate to anyone ...
>
> Hello,
>
> I think /opt is the right place on the server (director) side,
> but i prefer system standards (LSB, ...) for client packages.

Yes, that is a reasonable way of doing things ...

Kern


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