On 10/27/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
> > I'm not going to pretend like I'm some scholarly expert. I've read
> > alot about religion but I don't want to set myself up as an authority.
> > And this might sound bad... but if you just now are getting the
> > group's name correct, then I don't think you are in ANY position to
> > speak so confidently about whether or not the group still exists. You
> > have no basis for saying what you are saying.
> > It is better to just say, that you don't know.
Iskandar:
> Your arguments, if one can call them "arguments", are amzing. What are you
> saying?
I'm saying that I haven't seen a convincing argument one way or
another which says whether anyone descended from Banu Qurayzah is
alive today.
> Just produce someone from banu-Qurayzah and end the discussion. If you
> can't, then just say nothing.
Scott is the one who claimed to know for certain that Banu Qurayzah
was gone, but he didn't know the difference between Qurayzah and
Quraysh. I never claimed they were definitely still around. If you
think they are definitely gone then show the evidence.
Gilberto:
> > There is a famous saying in philosophical circles that says you can't
> > go from an Is to an Ought. Moral values aren't things that you can
> > measure emprically. So in particular, you can't look at history and
> > find evidence that moral values have changed. You might be able to
> > find evidence that people's beliefs about morality have changed, gone
> > up and down like hemlines. But not the values themselves.
> Another nonsense comment.
(sigh)
Peace
Gilberto
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