The Baha'i Studies Listserv Today Gilberto Simpson gilberto.simp...@gmail.com wrote:
*** I guess what I would suggest is that if the reality underneath the names is really the same, then the names don't matter at all. (Including the name Bahaullah). The only thing that matters is getting access to that reality. And so if we are really talking about the unchanging Faith of God as being the important thing, then that should be accessible from the best parts of the Jewish tradition, or the best parts of the Christian tradition, or the best parts of Islamic tradition etc. And that if you "cling" to Bahaullah its possible to not see the truths which non-Baháís may already have. Gilberto Simpson gilberto.simp...@gmail.com*** Khazeh writes humbly: I always respond to Gilberto with great love and interest. Earlier I had mentioned the danger of idolization and clinging to names. But I believe the above posting by my loved friend Gilberto Simpson prompts me to share another reference and again, as usual, I beg and beseech all of us including myself, to peruse these with reverence, attention, and thought. Here from the Gleanings He (Bahaullah) says it is important to accept the Manifestation of the ONE Single Reality in His NEW ATTIRE. And this new attire (and new and old bottles has resonances with Johns Gospel) as you will see hopefully Bahaullah reveals: It is clear and evident to thee that all the Prophets are the Temples of the Cause of God, Who have appeared clothed in divers attire. (Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 51) It behoveth thee to consecrate thyself to the Will of God. Whatsoever hath been revealed in His Tablets is but a reflection of His Will. So complete must be thy consecration, that every trace of worldly desire will be washed from thine heart. This is the meaning of true unity. Do thou beseech God to enable thee to remain steadfast in this path, and to aid thee to guide the peoples of the world to Him Who is the manifest and sovereign Ruler, Who hath revealed Himself in a distinct attire, Who giveth utterance to a Divine and specific Message. This is the essence of faith and certitude. (Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 338) How high the reward of him that hath not deprived himself of so great a bounty, nor failed to recognize the beauty of his Best-Beloved in this, His new attire. (Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 167) 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. (King James Bible, John) In every divine dispensation the one sent with the new attire summons us to eternal life. In the Sinaitic Dispensation the Burning Bush In the Christian Dispensation Jesus Christ In the Days of Muh.ammad His Holy Book and His Holy Self In this day the Desire of all nations Bahaullah. (actually this is the fulfilment of those verses of the Quran which swears by the Fig tree, the Olive tree, Sinai, and this Holy Land but this is a later discussion) *** Today the enmity and rivalry existing between the religions are over mere words. It is an established fact that the followers of all the religions believe in a reality, the benefits of which are universal; which reality is a medium between God and man. The Jews call that reality Moses, the Christians Christ, the Moslems Mohammed, the Buddhists Buddha and the Zoroastrians Zoroaster. Now mark well that none of these religionists have ever seen the founders; they have only heard his name. Could they overlook these names they would at once realize that all believe in a perfect reality which is an intermediary between the Almighty and the creatures. Should you speak to a Jew about the medium or channel between God and man, without referring to any particular name or person, he would say, "Yes, this is right, but I say the name of this mediator is Moses." If you give the exposition of the divine philosophy to the followers of each religion they will agree with you in the abstract, but they will stick to the names of their own prophets and arise in contention and strife over these names. The Jew believes in Christ, though he knows it not, and is quibbling over the mere name. There have been wars and rumors of war amongst the people of the world for many thousand years; much innocent blood has been shed, many kingdoms and empires have been laid waste. Is it not enough? Religion should be the means of good fellowship and love. It must upraise the standard of harmony and solidarity. If religion is conducive to hatred and enmity, its existence is harmful to the welfare of the community. (Abdu'l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, p. 154) 'Abdu'l-Bahá replied: "Mankind needs a universal motive power to quicken it. The inspired messenger who is directly assisted by the power of God brings about universal results. Bahá'u'lláh rose as a light in Persia and now that light is going out to the whole world." "Is this what is meant by the Second Coming of Christ?" He replied most profoundly: (reminding one again of the resonance with h.aqeeqat al muh.ammdaiyya (the Muh.ammadan Reality) ** "Christ is an Expression of the Divine Reality, the Single Essence and Heavenly Entity, which hath no beginning or ending. It has appearance, arising, and manifestation and setting in each one of the Cycles." (Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 88) With love respect and prayers khazeh On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Naison Jones <naistrada...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > > A seeker must put aside all love and hate. Love because what he loves > can blind him to finding the beloved in another form because he is too > attached to the old form. > if I love the symbol of the cross and am so in love with Jesus dying > on the cross and his self-less sacrifice I will not as easily be able > to recognise Baha'u'llah he did not die on the cross. > If similarly I am in love with Muhammad in love with the idea of this > desert nomad guiding people and declaring holy war and winning these > battles or whatever else pertains to this revelation how can I > recognise one who says "Holy war is abolished"? > Love can be a veil as much as hate. > A true seeker puts aside his love and hate and seeks only for the > reality in all things. > And since the reality of the prophets is the same, one who is detached > from all else save him should be able to come upon the revelation > "Swift as a twinkling of the eye" (that is from Ruhi book 2 I think). > Good luck. > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-548135-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu