The Baha'i Studies Listserv Because he is so conveniently selective and always evasive.
Did the caravan raids occur or not? Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®, typed with fat fingers on a small device. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Haase <matthewhaa...@gmail.com> Sender: <bounce-549367-2080...@list.jccc.edu>Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:54:29 To: Baha'i Studies<bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Reply-To: "Baha'i Studies" <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Subject: Re: Stealth Jihad The Baha'i Studies Listserv This is the second time you have projected the "anti-Muslim Jewish historian" comment onto Gilberto, and yet he has not made that statement a single time......Not exactly the most fair tactic. On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D. <iskandar....@gmail.com>wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > No, I did not say that particular story is in Bukhari. Maybe it is and > maybe it is not. But it is in early histories. Oh, sorry, I forgot that ibn > Ishaq was an anti-Muslim Jewish historian. But stories about Muhammad's > caravan raids are in Bukhari. Are you saying ibn Ishaq is an unreliable > Muslim liar? Or, is he a Jewish liar? > > Are you denying that any raid ever took place? > > I do not have an anti-Muslim cmpaign. Ibn Ishaq has an anti-Muslim agenda. > You have an anti-Baha'i campaign on this list and you had been asked to > leave and you still refuse. So, why don't you give up? > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Gilberto Simpson < > gilberto.simp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D. >> <iskandar....@gmail.com> wrote: >> > The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> > >> > So, now you just want to deny all the raid episodes altogether? >> >> No. You made a specific claim that Muhammad had the Muslims attack >> defenseless caravans in the month of Rajab (one of the forbidden >> months) and that your claim could be supported by Muslim sources (and >> you specifically mentioned Bukhari). >> >> What I'm telling you is that I checked Bukhari and it didn't seem to be >> there. >> >> I think what you can do is >> >> a) actually find Muslim sources (i.e. the Quran, authentic hadith) >> which support what you say or... >> >> b) give up your anti-Muslim crusade altogether , maybe focus on the >> Bahai Writings... >> >> __________________________________________________ >> You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:iskandar....@gmail.com >> Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: >> leave-549351-2080565.74e62800577573ae18970b78170ff...@list.jccc.edu >> Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to >> ly...@list.jccc.edu >> Or subscribe: >> http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >> Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >> Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >> Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >> News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >> Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net >> New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >> > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:matthewhaa...@gmail.com > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to > mailto:leave-549363-953325.e9a9b042dd227e4657deb0ff0d384...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:iskandar....@gmail.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549367-2080565.74e62800577573ae18970b78170ff...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549370-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu