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Because he is so conveniently selective and always evasive. 

Did the caravan raids occur or not? 


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From: Matt Haase <matthewhaa...@gmail.com>
Sender: <bounce-549367-2080...@list.jccc.edu>Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:54:29 
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Subject: Re: Stealth Jihad

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This is the second time you have projected the "anti-Muslim Jewish
historian" comment onto Gilberto, and yet he has not made that statement a
single time......Not exactly the most fair tactic.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D.
<iskandar....@gmail.com>wrote:

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>  No, I did not say that particular story is in Bukhari. Maybe it is and
> maybe it is not. But it is in early histories. Oh, sorry, I forgot that ibn
> Ishaq was an anti-Muslim Jewish historian. But stories about Muhammad's
> caravan raids are in Bukhari. Are you saying ibn Ishaq is an unreliable
> Muslim liar? Or, is he a Jewish liar?
>
> Are you denying that any raid ever took place?
>
> I do not have an anti-Muslim cmpaign. Ibn Ishaq has an anti-Muslim agenda.
> You have an anti-Baha'i campaign on this list and you had been asked to
> leave and you still refuse. So, why don't you give up?
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Gilberto Simpson <
> gilberto.simp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Baha'i Studies Listserv
>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D.
>> <iskandar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > The Baha'i Studies Listserv
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>> > So, now you just want to deny all the raid episodes altogether?
>>
>> No. You made a specific claim that Muhammad had the Muslims attack
>> defenseless caravans in the month of Rajab (one of the forbidden
>> months) and that your claim could be supported by Muslim sources (and
>> you specifically mentioned Bukhari).
>>
>> What I'm telling you is that I checked Bukhari and it didn't seem to be
>> there.
>>
>> I think what you can do is
>>
>> a) actually find Muslim sources (i.e. the Quran, authentic hadith)
>> which support what you say or...
>>
>> b) give up your anti-Muslim crusade altogether , maybe focus on the
>> Bahai Writings...
>>
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