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From: bounce-549420-27...@list.jccc.edu [mailto:bounce-549420-27...@list.jccc.edu] On Behalf Of Iskandar Hai, M.D. Sent: 31 December 2010 06:26 To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: nakhlah raid was Re: Stealth Jihad The Baha'i Studies Listserv I find the idea of "reconnaissance" missions, in 624, quite amusing to say the least. I am just a humble. Lowly, insignificant reader of this list from time to time. I believe that the studies part of this list’s purpose has diminished exponentially recently. But I believe that Mr Gilberto Simpson should be kept as a contributor. Gilberto knows and I have with greatest respect mentioned this to him that he should not re-iterate finality [khatmiyyat without engaging with all the Bahai Proofs on this. But of course, of course, he is entitled to continue on his point of view re: khatmiyyat and khaatamiyyat. I have friends who not just for ten years but for over thirty years insist on their own point of view re *seal-ship* and then suddenly open us lovingly to the Bahai Teachings, to Baha’u’llah and this Day of God (Yawm uLlaah). In fact just last week u met an Egyptian of great learning and erudition and I asked him what made you go over the impassable bridge of verse 33:40 on to the Bahai? He replied that for over 30 years! he disputed and attacked the Bahai position with all the “weapons” in his “armamentarium” and then…and then…suddenly alone one night he wondered what was the connection what is the connection of the Holy Prophet’s Marriage to Zayd’s recently divorced wife Zaynab got to do with finality of revelation?...because the first part of the verse is most clearly a reference to that person Zayd etc and the second part of verse 33:40 mentions (Khaatam)… He followed his conscience on this… Further I have had a dream …I won’t mention the details of it but I did dream that a Holy Soul in Islam (I forget whether it was, I ask forgiveness of God!, The Prophet HimSelf or one of the Imams said to me: ** Gilberto will come. Gilberto will see. You have shown Gilberto love. It will not go wasted…) something like this.** So let us all be respectful and continue genuine in depth study. For example and in all sincerity I ask has any one on this list read this book Tolerance and coercion in Islam: interfaith relations in the Muslim tradition <http://books.google.com/books?id=a0nToibj6K4C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0> Description: Description: Front Cover <http://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&tbo=p&q=+inauthor:%22Yohanan+Friedmann%22> Yohanan Friedmann <http://books.google.com/books?id=a0nToibj6K4C&sitesec=reviews> 1 Review Cambridge University Press, 2003 - <http://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&tbo=p&q=+subject:%22Religion%22&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0> Religion - 233 pages Since the beginning of its history, Islam has encountered other religious communities both in Arabia and in the territories conquered during its expansion. Muslims faced other religions from the position of a ruling power and were therefore able to determine the nature of that relationship in accordance with their world-view and beliefs. Yohanan Friedmann's original and erudite study examines questions of religious tolerance as they appear in the Quran and in the prophetic tradition, and analyses the principle that Islam is exalted above all religions, discussing the ways in which this principle was reflected in various legal pronouncements. The book also considers the various interpretations of the Quranic verse according to which 'No compulsion is there in religion', noting that, despite the apparent meaning of this verse, Islamic law allowed the practice of religious coercion against Manichaeans and Arab idolators, as well as against women and children in certain circumstances. And the only thing I beg of Gilberto Simpson is that he should not provoke simple and hopefully pure souls like me by writing *Haifan Baha’is* as in his letter of December the 21st **Naison, I don't think you got what I intended to say. Once you've chosen to be a Haifan Bahai, then by all means, make a commitment to follow all of the rules of the Aqdas and the guidance of the UHJ.** It is provocative a bit and it is not necessary __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549450-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
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