given the latest news i bet nobody would expect the camp to happen anyway, seems like we have a curfew now. so no rush here, but would be good to get it done today.
On 16 May 2010 14:13, j. Tim Denny <[email protected]> wrote: > indeed... the lead organizers need to step in and make the decision if the > event is cancelled or not... we then need to support them by helping to get > the word out. > Cheers > Tim > __________________________________ > j. Tim Denny, Ph.D. > Consultant - International Development, Education and ICT > Upper Secondary and Professional Teacher Development Project - Vietnam > SKYPE - jtdenny Googletalk - denny.jt > http://www.linkedin.com/in/jtdenny > https://www.avuedigitalservices.com/VR/id130765695 > ..... > "Hand-up not a hand-out" > > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Sittiphol Phanvilai <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> There is drupal module to do this task. However, is this event >> cancellation confirm yet? I think that you should tell all influencer to >> start announcing via all channel (twitter, facebook) now. >> >> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, 31o5 Oh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> anybody can send bulk mail to the registered people from >>> barcampbangkok.org ? >>> does drupal has the feature to do so? >>> >>> >>> >>> http://31o5.com >>> http://MOZO.in.th/MOZO-SHI >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 14:01, Jan Detlefsen >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> i suggest to canchel as well and anounce it asap. >>>> if anyone has booked a flight from outside already we should take care >>>> about them, maybe have some drinks, eat, etc. also if they like some >>>> sessions in hackerspace it should be available. if at all i'm sure >>>> there are not more than a handful who booked already. >>>> anyone has an idea who booked a flight already? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 May 2010 13:39, Prem Sichanugrist <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Cancel and no Phuket >>>> > People registered for the event because they think it will be held in >>>> > Bangkok. Lots of people can't go out of the city because of their >>>> > parent, >>>> > work reason, etc. We had the idea about BeachCamp while ago, an it >>>> > just >>>> > doesn't work. >>>> > So cancel the whole thing, state the reason about safety. If you >>>> > really want >>>> > some BarCamp event, then let the local people at Phuket/Chiangmai do >>>> > then >>>> > Stay safe >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>> > On 16 พ.ค. 2553, at 13:24, "j. Tim Denny" <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Andreas >>>> > As stated earlier my encouragement is for swift cancellation of the >>>> > event... >>>> > your enthusiasm to have such an event in Phuket is warmly >>>> > appreciated, >>>> > but having been to Phuket through the Southern bus terminal just a few >>>> > months ago I am going to venture to say that it is nearly impossible >>>> > to get >>>> > it done on such a short notice. What you propose is a logistical >>>> > nightmare - >>>> > even getting 10 seats on a bus would be tough during this period. >>>> > Getting those that need to go back through Bangkok to town in time >>>> > for >>>> > whatever other appointments, the added costs and additional shuffles >>>> > that >>>> > have to be done in a few days is really not a matter of discussion. >>>> > I think the most constructive thing to do in this situation is to >>>> > support >>>> > the organizers in an effort to cancel the event any talk of changing >>>> > sites >>>> > at this stage will just lead to a major headache for all. >>>> > For the key organizers you need to quickly decide how to advertise a >>>> > cancellation and do it immediately... there is no time to waste on >>>> > further >>>> > discussions on alternatives. >>>> > cheers >>>> > Tim >>>> > __________________________________ >>>> > j. Tim Denny, Ph.D. >>>> > Consultant - International Development, Education and ICT >>>> > Upper Secondary and Professional Teacher Development Project - >>>> > Vietnam >>>> > SKYPE - jtdenny Googletalk - denny.jt >>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/jtdenny >>>> > https://www.avuedigitalservices.com/VR/id130765695 >>>> > ..... >>>> > "Hand-up not a hand-out" >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Andreas Becker <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> I can understand your concerns and I saw things coming up like this >>>> >> already weeks ago as you know. >>>> >> But Airlines would be happy to redirect flights to Phuket instead of >>>> >> loosing the customer ;-) >>>> >> You need to cancel the Barcamp in Bangkok at the location at Sripatum >>>> >> for >>>> >> sure - I would do the same! >>>> >> But you can offer all those enthusiasts which still want to make >>>> >> BarCamp >>>> >> at this weekend happen to get on Tour to Phuket. >>>> >> Why not? Here it is peaceful and quiet and we have the necessary >>>> >> infrastructure available. Even in our church we have WIFI and like >>>> >> said >>>> >> Synchron Speaker Cabine for translation. >>>> >> Lets say if only a quarter of people would come - which means about >>>> >> 100 - >>>> >> 150 People we could make it happen here at our location at >>>> >> SoftwarePark! In >>>> >> a building where Hospital OS, TYPO3 and many other Free Open Source >>>> >> Products >>>> >> are at home and get developed. For sure we will get also people from >>>> >> Phuket >>>> >> to come here. perhaps even people which actually intended to travel >>>> >> up to >>>> >> Bangkok as we thought to do until the blockade of those redshirts. >>>> >> I guess lots people from Bangkok would be happy to have also one >>>> >> weekend >>>> >> without worrying where and when bullets are flying in which direction >>>> >> and >>>> >> perhaps hurting them. >>>> >> Cancel Bangkok >>>> >> Promote Phuket and we get things going. Try to get at least a >>>> >> feedback >>>> >> from the registered people if they would like to join the Phuket >>>> >> idea! >>>> >> We here in Phuket will help you in Bangkok to get things going in a >>>> >> safe >>>> >> surrounding. And you all will help us by joining to promote Phuket as >>>> >> an ICT >>>> >> Innovation Paradise and OpenSource Development and Training Hub for >>>> >> Asia. >>>> >> Andi >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:48 PM, proteus guy <[email protected]> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> sounds like fun but no way can i do this right now. cancel >>>> >>> barcampbkk and >>>> >>> let's figure out what to do after the bullets stop flying. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Andreas Becker <[email protected]> >>>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello BarCampers all around the world and in Thailand which >>>> >>>> intended to >>>> >>>> join BarCamp Bangkok >>>> >>>> please give us a feedback and join in the discussion! It won't be >>>> >>>> sure >>>> >>>> at all how long this conflict in Bangkok will last. Are you >>>> >>>> interested to >>>> >>>> make it happen in Phuket instead? >>>> >>>> Could someone send a round mailer or inform potential participants >>>> >>>> that >>>> >>>> we here in Phuket would get the BarCamp running on next weekend. So >>>> >>>> if you >>>> >>>> cancel or postpone in Bangkok we would offer everyone who is >>>> >>>> interested to >>>> >>>> come to Phuket to have BarCamp here - Like it was said in a former >>>> >>>> post >>>> >>>> already lots of people have booked and it would be a loss also for >>>> >>>> them >>>> >>>> financially. This isn't worth it as a bustrip to Phuket is much >>>> >>>> cheaper than >>>> >>>> the possible loss. Additional the Marketing Effect to promote >>>> >>>> Thailand as >>>> >>>> Software Development Destination even in these times would be >>>> >>>> totally gone >>>> >>>> which would harm us all! >>>> >>>> How many people have already registered? >>>> >>>> Simply ask them the question who would like to go to Phuket like >>>> >>>> described above and who would like to drive, fly, travel by himself >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> Phuket and will join and who won't join. >>>> >>>> Than you know the number of possible participants. >>>> >>>> You can get those who want to travel as group in a bus together. >>>> >>>> All others name to us and we will send them instructions how to get >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> us. >>>> >>>> I will be online to day till late for people who want to discuss >>>> >>>> more. >>>> >>>> Andi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Andreas Becker <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> livestream is banned to so no way for online >>>> >>>>> 400 People is not to much. In a bus you can pack about 50 or even >>>> >>>>> more >>>> >>>>> people. This makes up to 8 - 10 Busses. I gues it will be easy to >>>> >>>>> find a >>>> >>>>> transportation company which would like to offer a special price >>>> >>>>> for such an >>>> >>>>> amount of people even in this short time. >>>> >>>>> 8 - 10 Busses would also mean you could have about 4 stops to >>>> >>>>> change >>>> >>>>> for different talks inside the bus before you go for a sleep ;-) >>>> >>>>> If only a few would like to come than book some less busses. It >>>> >>>>> would >>>> >>>>> be good to get a feedback thow. >>>> >>>>> You could even let the busses start in Bangkok from different >>>> >>>>> places. >>>> >>>>> i.e. one bus could pick up all arriving from Suvarnabhum Airport >>>> >>>>> so there is >>>> >>>>> no need in risking anything and simply drive around Bangkok >>>> >>>>> instead of >>>> >>>>> getting people inside. I am sure when I ask here at PSU we can get >>>> >>>>> this >>>> >>>>> thing going even in this short amount of time. The director of >>>> >>>>> Software Park >>>> >>>>> Phuket where our company is located is also Professor there. We >>>> >>>>> will also >>>> >>>>> contact SIPA Phuket as they have also places available. And we >>>> >>>>> will ask the >>>> >>>>> Phuket Administrative Office to help and as said I am sure our >>>> >>>>> church will >>>> >>>>> help to. They have a huge room for about 300 people with a big >>>> >>>>> stage and 2 >>>> >>>>> lcd monitors to each side and even a synchron translation system >>>> >>>>> available. >>>> >>>>> So Thai talks could be translated in to english. >>>> >>>>> Below the worship room is a huge space where another session could >>>> >>>>> take >>>> >>>>> place, usually we are having lunch here. They have a kitchen too >>>> >>>>> and I guess >>>> >>>>> we can organize that they will provide lunch for an affordable >>>> >>>>> price. The >>>> >>>>> church is located in Thalang, In the evening we could have a Beach >>>> >>>>> session >>>> >>>>> with AfterParty at Layan Beach. There is very good CDMA >>>> >>>>> Connectivity to. We >>>> >>>>> sometimes work from there ;-) >>>> >>>>> What steps need to be taken to get this thing runing: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Phone to the southern Busterminal or if you have contact to a Bus >>>> >>>>> transportation Company ask them. Ask them if they can provide >>>> >>>>> busses to make >>>> >>>>> BarCamp on Tour possible. >>>> >>>>> As soon as you will give us a go I will contact the Directors of >>>> >>>>> Software Park, my friends at SIPA-Phuket and Khun Paiboon head of >>>> >>>>> the Phuket >>>> >>>>> Provincial Office and see how we can help. At least our church or >>>> >>>>> my former >>>> >>>>> school where I was director can provide place for you. It is an >>>> >>>>> "emergency" >>>> >>>>> and it is to promote Free Open Software Products to and It is a >>>> >>>>> chance also >>>> >>>>> for Phuket and actually Thailand to show that Thailand is peaceful >>>> >>>>> and worth >>>> >>>>> to be visited by people from all around the world. I am sure that >>>> >>>>> they are >>>> >>>>> in and that we can get this thing going. >>>> >>>>> Check how many people are arriving from the airport and when they >>>> >>>>> are >>>> >>>>> arriving. Get a feedback if they are in! and pick them up direct >>>> >>>>> at the >>>> >>>>> airport. Perhaps they can even redirect their flights to Phuket >>>> >>>>> airport and >>>> >>>>> we will see how we can pick them up from the airport. We only >>>> >>>>> would need to >>>> >>>>> know who and how many we would need to pick up. >>>> >>>>> possible Locations for Meetings if only a few people will come >>>> >>>>> could be >>>> >>>>> also Software Park Phuket. It has Conference location for about >>>> >>>>> 120 People ( >>>> >>>>> 40 / 40 / 14 / and our office on the same floor we can transform >>>> >>>>> also to fit >>>> >>>>> 20 people. All rooms incl our office have big screen and LCD and >>>> >>>>> WiFi and of >>>> >>>>> course the Church like mentioned above. >>>> >>>>> http://softwareparkphuket.com >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't think it will be a bigger problem for people which don't >>>> >>>>> know >>>> >>>>> each other to travel together in a bus and have fun. Actually that >>>> >>>>> is what a >>>> >>>>> Barcamp is for - to meet new people. So BarCampers are usually >>>> >>>>> easy going >>>> >>>>> people and are very communicative and friendly people which want >>>> >>>>> to meet new >>>> >>>>> people to get new inspirations. >>>> >>>>> It only needs for now a GO form you in Bangkok and a number of >>>> >>>>> people >>>> >>>>> which might come! >>>> >>>>> It is not to late to start right now - TODAY! to get the planing >>>> >>>>> running! >>>> >>>>> Everyone who want to have a Barcamp now is invited to come here! >>>> >>>>> Lots >>>> >>>>> of people have already booked their flights and as said its easy >>>> >>>>> to get >>>> >>>>> around Bangkok if you pick them up at the airport. So we could >>>> >>>>> have fun >>>> >>>>> without worrying that somebody gets killed in Bangkok. >>>> >>>>> Moving the BarCamp to Phuket would be also much better PR than >>>> >>>>> postponing or cancelling it. Show the world that we are innovative >>>> >>>>> here in >>>> >>>>> Thailand and have creative ideas. Invite some reporters which >>>> >>>>> don't like to >>>> >>>>> get shot - to join you in the busses. Take Videos from the talks >>>> >>>>> inside the >>>> >>>>> busses and we will post and stream them lateron to the world. >>>> >>>>> Forget for now about Sripatum - this is simply a nogo place right >>>> >>>>> now! >>>> >>>>> Andi >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:44 AM, 31o5 Oh <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> bus trip sounds nice, but to get 400 ppl head to bus station or >>>> >>>>>> somewhere is risky enough same as getting people around >>>> >>>>>> spu....... >>>> >>>>>> I'd be in and it'll work if it's only few people know each other >>>> >>>>>> enough tho.. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> this is real crazy... shall we have online barcamp then? ustream >>>> >>>>>> is >>>> >>>>>> banned, maybe something else. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Stay safe everybody!!! >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> satoko >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> http://31o5.com >>>> >>>>>> http://MOZO.in.th/MOZO-SHI >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:30, Andreas Becker <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Hi All >>>> >>>>>>> Like I said before. Please stop BarCamp before it is getting >>>> >>>>>>> worse >>>> >>>>>>> and even the kill zone reaches it. It is not worth to risk any >>>> >>>>>>> lives in this >>>> >>>>>>> real stupid shooting arounds in Bangkok. >>>> >>>>>>> At least the Thailand Open Source and BarCamp Communitry will >>>> >>>>>>> need >>>> >>>>>>> more bad advertisement in the Press as already caused by >>>> >>>>>>> Bangkoks Chaos. >>>> >>>>>>> I would still offer you to get your people of the Barcamp into a >>>> >>>>>>> Bus >>>> >>>>>>> - and I mean it like this - and get down here. Make it a real >>>> >>>>>>> BarCamp. A >>>> >>>>>>> night travel with BarCamps isn't worth and can be big fun to. >>>> >>>>>>> You start at >>>> >>>>>>> the Southern Busterminal which is far out of the warzone. Than >>>> >>>>>>> travel down >>>> >>>>>>> here, we will look for a place where you can stay over night, >>>> >>>>>>> i.e. I could >>>> >>>>>>> talk to our pastor to offer his church for this - it is big >>>> >>>>>>> enough and I >>>> >>>>>>> will also talk to the people from University. >>>> >>>>>>> Make it like this >>>> >>>>>>> Travel the night down to Phuket. Than open the first 24 Hours >>>> >>>>>>> BarCamp >>>> >>>>>>> NonStop from Saturday 12am to Sunday 12 am the next day and >>>> >>>>>>> travel up to >>>> >>>>>>> Bangkok again the next night and you will be home about 6/7am in >>>> >>>>>>> the morning >>>> >>>>>>> ready to start your usual Business. This will give us 24 hours >>>> >>>>>>> of very >>>> >>>>>>> intensive talks and meetings in a real nonviolent and very >>>> >>>>>>> friendly >>>> >>>>>>> surrounding. The price would not be much higher I guess as if >>>> >>>>>>> you would need >>>> >>>>>>> to do BarCamp in Sripatum ;-) Traveling by Bus can be really >>>> >>>>>>> cheap and big >>>> >>>>>>> fun, especially if you have Bar Campers. Take some CDMA Modems >>>> >>>>>>> with you and >>>> >>>>>>> you could even have your BarCamp already started inside the Bus. >>>> >>>>>>> Start >>>> >>>>>>> presenting your talks on the bus screen. This would make it even >>>> >>>>>>> a 72 Hours >>>> >>>>>>> Nonstop Event! Starting Friday 19PM at the southern Bus Terminal >>>> >>>>>>> and ending >>>> >>>>>>> on Monday Morning 7am exactly at the same place. >>>> >>>>>>> If you are interested to get this running please let us know as >>>> >>>>>>> soon >>>> >>>>>>> as possible, so we can get you out of this proprietary warzone >>>> >>>>>>> to a free >>>> >>>>>>> open Source Island. >>>> >>>>>>> Andi >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Angelo Embuldeniya >>>> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Just a heads up that according to local news this morning >>>> >>>>>>>> there's a >>>> >>>>>>>> possibility that curfew may be imposed. >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> And as of last night there now seems to be two protest staging >>>> >>>>>>>> sites, one fixed at ratchaprasong and the other mobile on long >>>> >>>>>>>> trucks..wherever that mobile stage goes, areas surrounding may >>>> >>>>>>>> get marked as >>>> >>>>>>>> live ammunition zones.. >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:23 AM, proteus guy >>>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> In light of the escalation and apparent spread and potential >>>> >>>>>>>>> growth >>>> >>>>>>>>> of the violence in Bangkok, are we still moving forward with >>>> >>>>>>>>> Barcamp? Has >>>> >>>>>>>>> anyone talked to people at Sripatum to determine if they're >>>> >>>>>>>>> concerned or >>>> >>>>>>>>> not? I'm concerned that, as the government decides to crack >>>> >>>>>>>>> down harder and >>>> >>>>>>>>> clearly has turned the protest site into a kill zone, the reds >>>> >>>>>>>>> will go into >>>> >>>>>>>>> insurgent mode and the violence will no longer be contained. >>>> >>>>>>>>> Only got a few >>>> >>>>>>>>> days to go and I think this situation is going to get hotter >>>> >>>>>>>>> before it is >>>> >>>>>>>>> resolved. >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Opinions? >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> -- Ben >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> PS: BTW John I'm still waiting for the Sripatum contact info >>>> >>>>>>>>> regarding drink arrangements. >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>> >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> >>>>>>>>> Google >>>> >>>>>>>>> Groups "Barcamp Thailand" group. >>>> >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. 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