I wouldn't rule out the possibility that Mme had an idiosyncratic stringing. She was a player of renown (supposedly birds avoided chirping when she played), and presumably inspected the details before accepting the commissioned. RT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gernot Hilger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "BAROQUE-LUTE" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:28 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne > It appears that the lute was a painter's requisite lying around and > the upper courses just got slack and slipped at the nut. There is no > sensible reason to arrange the strings intentionally. At the bridge > it can be seen that there is no course missing. Funny that somebody > caring to depict the different string types should be so careless as > not to rearrange the string band. > > g > > On 31.03.2007, at 13:49, Roman Turovsky wrote: > >> From: "David Van Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Dear Roman, >>> >>> What a wonderful picture, thank you! >>> >>> Very interesting indeed. I make it a twelve course lute with >>> double top >>> and second courses which, for the date, is very unusual. The red >>> basses to >>> the octave courses are also clearly shown and clearly >>> distinguished from >>> the bright white of the octaves. Also the close spacing of the >>> unfingered >>> bass courses is very striking, so close that it implies quite soft >>> playing >>> of the bass courses. And the useful gap at the nut end between the >>> last of >>> the fingered strings and the first of the unfingered, allowing her to >>> reach for the 8th course without fouling the ninth. I wonder what >>> sort of >>> lute it was, it could be the normal "swan-neck" German baroque >>> form or >>> some sort of theorbo style extension. >> I suspect the latter. Note the saddle where there are 2 visible >> notches of >> the "missing" first course. The strings are in a more or less normal >> position at the body joint, but quite far from the edge of the >> fingerboard >> near the saddle. >> >> >> >>> >>> Do you know the exact date or more about it? I may have missed some >>> earlier posting if it went to the normal lute list as I'm only >>> subscribed >>> to the baroque list at the moment. >> I don't have the date, but it is 2nd quarter to be sure. >> RT >> >> >> >> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> At 18:29 -0400 30/3/07, Roman Turovsky wrote: >>>> I have a high-res image of Pesne's portraing of Mme.Kayserlinck, >>>> and her >>>> lute shows rather unusual stringing: >>>> http://polyhymnion.org/swv/Keyserlinck.jpg >>>> RT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Smokehouse, >>> 6 Whitwell Road, >>> Norwich, NR1 4HB England. >>> >>> Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >>> Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >
