I got to it somehow from the youTube preformance that you posted. Here's a small version of the picture. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dale Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "BAROQUE-LUTE" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne
>I have no idea which video site that may be. > RT > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "BAROQUE-LUTE" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Roman Turovsky" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:17 PM > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne > > >> Maybe the painter was messing with us Or he originally did two identical >> paintings only one of them had some errors we were supposed to spot. And >> the >> "correct" painting is hidden in an attic in Dusseldorf...Yeah that's it! >> >> Anyhow, Roman, You have a really cool picture on your video site of a >> lautespieler (13 course/rider/reflex pegbox) with a great hat and coat. >> Can >> I get a larger format download of that? >> Dale >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "BAROQUE-LUTE" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 12:15 PM >> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne >> >> >>>I am not 100% convinced. Mme Keyserlinck was not a run-of-the-mill cutie, >>> but a noted virtuosa. >>> RT >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Van Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Dale Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Cc: "baroque lute list" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Ed Durbrow" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "peter rauscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>> "Roman >>> Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 1:06 PM >>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne >>> >>> >>>>I think Dale's right, it IS a prop, but still interesting as an >>>> instrument, that is it probably is not a fake in the Franciolini >>>> sense. Though I do now agree that, given the fret spacings, we >>>> probably can't be certain the the bridge spacings show a double top >>>> course and 12 courses rather than singel top and second and 13 >>>> courses. The red basses remain as evidence though. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> At 12:49 -0500 4/3/07, Dale Young wrote: >>>>>Equally spaced ie not graduated in any kind of Pythagorean construct ? >>>>> Give a cute little girl who is having to rearrange the string >>>>> spacing >>>>> to >>>>>accomodate her little hand an instrument with an abnormally long >>>>>fingerboard >>>>>with ungraduated fret spacing... it's a prop. I rest my case ladies and >>>>>gentlemen. >>>>> She's still cute. >>>>> Dale >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>To: "baroque lute list" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Ed Durbrow" >>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "peter rauscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>>>>"Dale >>>>>Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:30 AM >>>>>Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> There is a 14 fret Schelle in Budapest. >>>>>> RT >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Dale Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "baroque lute list" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Ed >>>>>> Durbrow" >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "peter rauscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:24 PM >>>>>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Okay, >>>>>>> If you're going to make the reach easier, one would have the >>>>>>> string >>>>>>> spacing compressed > toward the hand edge of the fingerboard not >>>>>>> <away >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> it. Just me? >>>>>>> Thirteen equally spaced frets on the neck, abnormal, at least for >>>>>>> 18th >>>>>>> century west & central european terrestrial lute.(don't want to >>>>>>> step >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> anyone's toes here. Might be "the thing" for "air lute") >>>>>>> Dale >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "peter rauscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "baroque lute list" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Ed >>>>>>> Durbrow" >>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dale Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 4:38 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear List, >>>>>>>> I think on the painting there is a real lute played by the >>>>>>>> beautiful >>>>>>>> lady. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> think the reason for the strange stringing is that the sattle and >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> distance between the strings was changed to fit the smaller >>>>>>>> fingers >>>>>>>> of a >>>>>>>> young lady. >>>>>>>> do you think the red color of the bass strings is because they are >>>>>>>> wound >>>>>>>> with copper? >>>>>>>> I counted 13 frets - not unusual. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards from austria, >>>>>>>> peter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Dale Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: "baroque lute list" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Ed >>>>>>>> Durbrow" >>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 6:22 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for accuracy, I think there are a couple too many frets for >>>>>>>> reality.Which >>>>>>>> makes the whole lute thing look more like a prop. She sure is >>>>>>>> cute. >>>>>>>> Too >>>>>>>> bad, >>>>>>>> she's probably dead by now. >>>>>>>> Dale >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: "baroque lute list" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:46 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pesne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I like her right hand. It looks very relaxed. The pinky is outside >>>>>>>>> the bridge and I bet she would have slid the whole hand >>>>>>>>> gracefully >>>>>>>>> upwards when she needed to reach the lowest sounding courses, >>>>>>>>> keeping >>>>>>>>> the little finger outside and parallel to the bridge the whole >>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>> I'm sure she could play and remain pretty and dignified alla Mary >>>>>>>>> Burwel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>>>>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Smokehouse, >>>> 6 Whitwell Road, >>>> Norwich, NR1 4HB >>>> England. >>>> >>>> Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 >>>> Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > --
