In my experience, 1cm difference in bridge width is more than enough to entail consequences for how a maker sets up a neck, etc.
On 25 juin 2014, at 14:31, Louis Aull <aul...@comcast.net> wrote: > Mathew, > > You are talking about a 10mm difference here, less than half an inch. This > would affect only the smaller lutes running out of soundboard on the bass > course side. > > Lou Aull > > -----Original Message----- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf > Of Matthew Daillie > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:04 AM > To: Mathias Rösel > Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Swan Neck Baroque Lute for sale > > There is another aspect to this which the lute makers would be far more > competent to comment on, and that is the fact that a wider bridge must to an > extent determine the type of body to be chosen for the lute and require > adjustments to be made to the barring so that the soundboard still resonates > freely. I suppose an Unverdorben or Burkholtzer body would be more > accommodating for a wider bridge than say a Frei or a Weigert. > > best > > Matthew > > > On 25 juin 2014, at 12:49, Mathias Rösel <mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: > >> May I weigh in from another angle. Before Wolfgang Emmerich was going >> to build the angélique for me, we discussed issues of spacing at the >> bridge, also taking into account the surviving instruments. Mind you, >> it comprises >> 17 courses. None of the bridges of my lutes is wider than 14.9 cm, and >> that's what I thought (and still think) would fit best for my right >> hand. I want to be able to strike the 1st and 17th courses ensemble >> without overstretching my hand (Eugen Dombois springs to mind). So >> there had to be a solution within this scope. Wolfgang distributed the >> bass courses beneath the 10th course in a narrowing spacing, and that did > the trick. >> >> Mathias >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On >> Behalf Of >>> Matthew Daillie >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:34 AM >>> To: r.turov...@gmail.com >>> Cc: sterling price; Anton Birula; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Swan Neck Baroque Lute for sale >>> >>> >>> I have never played the lute with nails and know a lot of other >>> lutenists >> who definitely >>> don't play with nails either and the widest 13-course bridge spacing >>> they >> were using >>> was around 150 mm. Maybe things are different in the States but >>> really >> don't believe >>> there are many players here in Europe using such wide spacings. >>> Anyway, everyone to his own but to discourage people from buying a >>> lute by >> claiming >>> that a bridge spacing of 147 mm is unplayable sounds totally >>> unjustified >> to me. I'm >>> beginning to wonder whether this discussion isn't just another one of >> Roman's >>> pranks! >>> Best >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 25, 2014, at 4:14, "r.turov...@gmail.com" >>>> <r.turov...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think people who play with nails can get some mileage out of >>>> narrow >> spacing, but >>> flesh players need to be in the 155mm vicinity. >>>> RT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 6/24/2014 7:51 PM, sterling price wrote: >>>>> I think it depends on what your'e used to. My first 13 course had >> 157mm >>>>> and that is what I learned on, and I try to only play lutes with >> that >>>>> spacing. Once I had a lute for 6 months that was much smaller (say >>>>> around 145 cm) and I couldn't stand it. I could never hit the >> correct >>>>> bass notes. I know Barto uses 155cm. I tend to favor lutes of the >>>>> Edlinger school which tend to be bigger I think than Hoffman and >>>>> Schelle lutes. I also prefer lutes with a longer string length like >>>>> over 76 cm. I would love to try one of the 80cm 13 course lutes. >>>>> Sterling >>>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 4:53 PM, Anton Birula >>>>> <image...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: >>>>> I am really surprised.... Having played londer than 23 years, I >> never >>>>> had an instrument wider than 147 which I play. Everyone who >>>>> played >> my >>>>> lutes would say that it is a bit widish.... Also as far as I know, >>>>> Hoppy Smith, Nigel North, Konrad Junghanel, Toyohiko Satoh, Jacob >>>>> Lindberg and many others have lutes narrower than 147. It is really >>>>> remarkable to hear that people have such wide spacing around. What >>>>> about late Weiss Suites from Dresden manuscript Nr 23,24, 25, 30? >> How >>>>> do these work on that spacings? >>>>> Best wishes, AB >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> On Tue, 6/24/14, Matthew Daillie <[1]dail...@club-internet.fr> >> wrote: >>>>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Swan Neck Baroque Lute for sale >>>>> To: "Christopher Wilke" <[2]chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>>>> Cc: "John Lenti" <[3]johnle...@hotmail.com>, >> "[4]r.turov...@gmail.com" >>>>> <[5]r.turov...@gmail.com>, "sterling price" >>>>> <[6]spiffys84...@yahoo.com>, "[7]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" >>>>> <[8]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2014, 9:07 PM >>>>> The difficulty comes from having to >>>>> drill a new hole very close to an old one. Even if the >>>>> latter is well plugged, the drill bit often finds its way >>>>> back into the original hole. It is also tricky to make sure >>> >>> >>> >>> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute- >>> admin/index.html >> >> > > >
