Kara and Hugh and Allan, There are a lot of people around the globe who have a different vision than the "green revolution," and see it for what it is. The meeting at Porto Allegre was one. The strong movement in India too. That is why I brought up the great work that is going on in teaching seed saving. Maybe no one sees this, but me. Monsanto's stock is down. Farmers here and in Canada see the drawbacks and disappointment that raising GMO crops has been even with the FULL support of the federal government. That's why they are trying so hard to sell African, Indonesian, etc. countries. They need to make more money than they have been making.
The organic movement in the U.S. has not reached out to developing countries because it IS fledgling. We're too busy trying to make ends meet and we're farming this way not just to make a buck but because we want to improve the world's nutrition. One of the things that is wrong on this earth is the population explosion of Homo sapiens sapiens. Species numbers increase when conditions are good--food and habitat. It's a bad idea to have a lot of cheap, mediocre food. Better to have good food that is sold for the cost of production. It just makes good sense. If we believe that we are successful in growing good food and that good food will raise the ethical and spiritual level of mankind, then we need to give outreach to those countries that will benefit most from raising organic food--the small landholders in developing countries in the South who live in villages, who have access to animal manure, and help them to value their local op seed. Undoubtedly, Monsanto will try making GMO seed for their local crops like the sweet potato in Kenya. You have to try to understand the whole picture and make your plays wherever you can. The organic movement is growing, but we need to act more politically to help the world as a whole. Don't worry about the Bio-Dynamic movement. This list has helped me so much to be Bio-Dynamic. Your experience and enthusiasm is certainly appreciated by many people. A spiritual group that is small can still make a great difference in the world because it is courageous. This group is courageous. Our whole world is changing so fast technologically, yet people are turning to alternative medicine and organic food even though the government and social structure is controlled by allopathic medical institutions and the USDA and EPA, etc. are made up of people who have worked in ag chemical corporations and who refuse to finalize scientific reports about the dangers of pesticides. In love and light, Merla KARA LEBEAU wrote: > Hello, > > I'm new to the list and am new to the teachings of bd as well, so I hope > you'll help me understand something here. Isn't anthroposophy etc include > the belief in Archangel Michael? His day is revered in the Waldorf schools > and I know people there believe in him. > > But Archangel Michael isn't just a nice picture of a being with wings. He's > a very active spiritual warrior, and as such should be invoked, in Divine > Will, along > with the other Archangels, to go after the evils and injustices in this > Earth. > > Don't people believe they can do this? It's been central to the beliefs of > Catholics and others and there are a great number of stories of miracles of > Archangel Michael's intercession. > > I don't think things need to get worse--they've been "worse" for too long. > > Sincerely, > Kara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: Monsanto submitted its petition for comm. of GE Wheat > > > Dear Allan, et. al., > > > > This is a discussion I don't join too often. > > > > It should be obvious that we won't shake awake more than a slivver of our > > population to the demon agendas. Sure we can iterate the rule that if a > > thing CAN happen it WILL. And it can be that Monsanto has had a truly > > oppressive agenda and is maximumly exploitative. All the signs are there > > for this to be true, so maybe it is. Granted. But mostly people won't wake > > up. Not yet. Things will have to get a lot worse. > > > > It is fine to be awake and to do the right things within our lights. But > we > > aren't a boil on the butt of the self-centered demons beseiging us. More > > like a pimple that may be scratched if it comes to the attention of it's > > host organism. > > > > I don't mean to discourage anyone. Let's keep building awareness, and > > rejection of the vogue agendas such as Monsanto's. But quite frankly I see > > little salvation in this alone. What will help us most is if things get a > > LOT worse. > > > > When our present president was annointed by the court of nine? On the one > > hand I could be disappointed that a nice guy, a little stiff and overly > > controlled but basically beneign, would not be at the rudder. But on the > > other hand, what could be better than to have a real S & M pervert ride > > this nation of hypnotized true believers with spurs on, forcing the > > pollution of coal and petroleum down everyone's nostrils and backing the > > GMO and irradiation denaturing of the food base? > > > > Like I said, things may have to get a LOT worse before they will get > > significantly better. > > > > So let us accept our lot philosophically and get set for when flag wavers > > and those on social insecurity realize en masse that their ikons are > > bankrupt, perverted, exploitative and cynically jaded. When things bottom > > out THEN we will need to be ready with our new and alternative teachings. > > Right now is growth and preparation for that. Not so? Something to think > > about. > > > > Best, > > Hugh Lovel > > > > > > > > > > >>"how much longer are we going to take this"....thats the statement > > >>of the new year. > > >> > > >>Perys situation is the (but one of many) story of 2003 and how do we > > >>stand with him/them? > > > > > >Bob - > > > > > >I'm at a loss. The response must be both powerful and persistent. > > > > > >I really believe that if the man or woman on the street really > > >understood that Monsanto was methodically contaminating the food > > >supply with their patented genes in what, according to the Schmeiser > > >experience, is a calculated attempt to legally control all seed > > >stock, there would be a great out cry that would affect the polls and > > >the ballot boxes in short order. > > > > > >Of course, I also believe that if a company like Enron was shown to > > >be manipulating energy prices at the expense of the many, that there > > >will be a similar quest for justice and security, but, if such a > > >thing is occurring, I haven't seen any sign of it in either my > > >neighborhood nor my newspaper. The recent US elections prove either > > >that American's are not uncomfortable with corporate corruption or > > >that the Democratic party is completely devoid of character, backbone > > >and ideas - -or both - - which makes it clear that the ballot box > > >is probably not the route to change. > > > > > >We get a lot of equivocation in our discussions on BD Now! The > > >situation with Monsanto's approach to GMOs is equivalent to our land > > >being on fire. The losses can be horrific and they can be final. When > > >you'r in a position to put a fire out before it has damaged > > >everything, that's the action to take. Knowing where to buy > > >fire-proof materials etc is good to have, but it's not the response > > >to take when the fire is still spreading. The approach to take is to > > >sound the alarm in a credible fashion to attract as many hands as > > >possible to stop the destruction. > > > > > >The thoughts above are drawn from assumptions that Monsanto is simply > > >acting in a business like fashion with a simple goal of owning the > > >sales of seed stocks of all the major cultivars around the world. > > >What if their goal were actual control of the food supply and, > > >conceivably, nature itself? It's amazing how much immorality we can > > >tolerate if we believe it is simply motivated by greed. What if gene > > >splicers who promote contamination of traditional stocks really do > > >have a more nefarious goal? > > > > Visit our website at: www.unionag.org > >
