Yeah well those Rabbit semi boards actually are not bad, its the software
stack you're forced to use with them that is horrible. Wulf and I built an
ethernet connected lead acid charge controller using one of these and the
crappy compiler you're forced to use introduced random bugs that where hard
to track down. On top of that Rabbit semi community help was terrible.
Snobs who think because you're a developer that you should instantly know
everything about embedded hardware. Thus my experiences with the
"community" which was actually a single person / engineer at rabbit semi
was a very bad experience.

Then ill tell you what. The rPI is a toy. It does a few small things well.
But for a true embedded board, in most cases it is garbage. The actual
physical engineering could even stand to use some work. Such as the surface
mounted full sized sdcard . . . terrible, terrible design decision. If you
can not figure out why, then you're not much of an engineer.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 6:42 PM, John Syne <john3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For someone who has been "working with products like this for 18 years",
> you would think he would be able to help himself by now. Yet he still
> thinks he is smarter than the rest of us, advising us to “leave this BBB”.
> Well, Karl, there are many more smarter people here who think BBB is way
> better than Raspberry Pi because of the open source hardware design, unlike
> the proprietary hardware design of the Raspberry Pi. You cannot even by the
> processor used on the Raspberry Pi. I think you have completely missed the
> value offered by the BeagleBoard organization. In addition, the BBB
> includes two PRU processors who have a cycle time of 5ns which is very
> important for realtime control functions. Cannot do that with the Raspberry
> Pi. Clearly you have no clue, so your advise has no value here.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Karl Easterly <k...@bigtexansoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
> to be a bit more nice about my grandious statement that the BBB is dead..
> here is a bit of history.
>
> I have been working with products like this for about 18 years. Small form
> factor boards like the basic stamps and zworld jack rabbits to todays rasp
> pi's and bbb's and the banana pros and such and such
>
> the raspberry has a great community.. and the BBB doesnt. I have had
> numerous instances where i was using the BBB and found an issue and there
> are only crickets sounding on google.
>
> I am not saying the BBB is a bad board as it is clearly a nice peice of
> engineering.. i am saying the product BBB will pass into the past while the
> rasp pi will persist.
>
> id advise you leave this BBB behind as it has no value looking toward the
> future. this ship has sunk.
>
> and thats a bummer in many ways.
> On Mar 22, 2016 7:27 PM, "ChrisB" <cbura...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My experience has been quite different.  Pretty much all the progress
>> I've made with the BBB was enabled by various forum posts and code
>> repositories.  And every time I think I have an original question or
>> observation, a little searching online finds the answer or a similar
>> developer experience.  It's not easy getting things to work some of the
>> time, but tenaciousness pays off for the most part.
>>
>> Anyway, thanks to everyone who's spent the time to post on forums and
>> share their code!  Hopefully, I will have something to contribute in the
>> near future and can start paying you all back.
>>
>> Chris Burak
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 4:58:27 PM UTC-6, Karl Easterly wrote:
>>>
>>> Ya.. I didn't ask for help.. as you noticed :)
>>>
>>> The point is the community for the beagle board is so sparse self help
>>> is not an option. A sparse community around this type of product equals a
>>> dead product.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Robert P. J. Day <rpj...@crashcourse.ca
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quoting Robert Nelson <robert...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2016 2:28 PM, "Karl Easterly" <k.s.ea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's clear that the BBB is a dead product. There is no meaningful
>>>>>>
>>>>> resources for issues, and when the system simply won't 'reset from a
>>>>> new
>>>>> image from their site'... that's the last straw.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mine are going in the trash and I will advise anyone everywhere to do
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>> same.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Last straw', I've don't remember you ever posting on here.. If it's
>>>>> only
>>>>> one and done for you, then there's no reason for me to waste time
>>>>> either..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   how *dare* everyone not drop what they're doing ***right now*** and
>>>> solve my problem during the first weekend of march madness?
>>>>
>>>> rday
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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