> On Apr 16, 2017, at 6:20 AM, Rathin Dholakia <rathindhola...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear John, > > Ok, now I understood. So basically, I have to create a dedicated crystal > based oscillator for time reference. I though you were telling to use PRU for > that, sorry my bad. Well, you can use the PRU as part of the PLL. Use the PRU to read the counter when the 1pps signal occurs. If the count is less than 1,000, increase the voltage from the DAC or decrease the DAC voltage if the count is higher than 1,000. The DAC voltage is controlling the VXCO (Voltage Controlled Crystal Oscillator). Typically the VXCO run at several MHz, you you need to divide that down to generate a 1MHz clock. The counter is reset to zero after reading the count. > > Though I'll have to figure out some way to convert my parallel digital > outputs in to SPI compatible serial signals and also how to control ADC, FIFO > and SPI all to gather. but that I will search! and will post here > > Once again thanks and will tell you if there is some query. > > > Apart from that Can you suggest some soultion to convert my parallel ADC > output Why not use a ADC with a SPI interface? If you really want to use a parallel ADC, then GreenPAK has a nice solution.
http://www.silego.com/products/402/312/AN-1083.html <http://www.silego.com/products/402/312/AN-1083.html> Regards, John > > On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 2:40:48 AM UTC+5:30, john3909 wrote: > >> On Apr 15, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Rathin Dholakia <rathind...@gmail.com >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >> Dear John, >> >> Thanks a lot for such a detailed insight! >> >> Yes I will need a precise time,and I was misinformed about the timer so I >> was under impression that they are the clock source and hence driving force. >> >> I will need some time to think and digest all but before I proceed let me >> rephrase what I have understood, so that you can correct me: >> >> - Use PRU0 as an timer (oscillator) for deriving SOC >> - Use PRU1 for DMA using SPI via FIFO, and also to time tag!? > Use ARM SPI driver for reading ADC samples via EDMA, but use PRU1 to monitor > the EDMA completion and then using the value from the 1MHz counter, time tag > the ADC buffer. You don’t have to tag each sample because you know the > sampling rate. >> - Remaining ARM processor for DFT and other thing >> >> Did I get it correctly? >> >> But then my question are: >> 1. I still need to detect EOC and assert READ signals then how will my FIFO >> or DMA free my processor? > Not necessary as the FIFO half full will cause an interrupt and initiate the > DMA transfer. >> 2. My PRU 1MHz, How can it be disciplined, it will still need an interrupt >> to detect 1PPS right? > The 1pps is used with a PLL (phase lock loop) to tune the 1MHz crystal > frequency so that the 1MHz is exactly 1MHz. In the case that the GPS is lost, > the Oscillator continues to be accurate for several hours or more. >> 3. And How can it replace Time data from GPS? > Same answer as above. >> >> Pardon me if above question sound novice! I have not worked on it before. >> >> Maybe you are suggesting something like this: >> 1. >> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/PRU_Linux-based_Example_Code#PRU_edmaConfig >> >> <http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/PRU_Linux-based_Example_Code#PRU_edmaConfig> > This example is a good one to show you how to monitor the EDMA transfer > completion with the PRU. >> 2. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/UPbU2WoVzVI >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/UPbU2WoVzVI> >> >> > Regards, > John >> >> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:13 PM, John Syne <john...@gmail.com <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >>> On Apr 15, 2017, at 6:49 AM, Rathin Dholakia <rathind...@gmail.com >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear John, >>> >>> Thanks for your suggestion. Yes I was thinking in same line but bit >>> differently. I am still a rookie in all this so have few queries in your >>> approach if you can clarify. >>> >>> 1. Instead of PRU as oscillator, I was planning to use one of the 4 onboard >>> timers. Wont it be better? why didyou suggested PRU instead of Timer? some >>> benefit? >> It depends on your absolute time accuracy requirements. If you are looking >> at 100mS accuracy, then by all means use the Timer with interrupts given the >> interrupt latency of Linux. If you want 1uS accuracy, then you need a >> disciplined oscillator which drives a 1MHz counter which can be read by the >> PRU so that you can time tag the ADC samples. >>> >>> 2. My ADC chip (AD7864) has an inbuilt ring output ring register with >>> circles among the outputs of 4 channels every time I pull down "READ" pin. >>> So, do I still need a FIFO? >> DMA has to arbitrate for bus access and isn’t efficient if you are only >> reading one or just a few samples at a time. You want to read at least 32 >> samples at a time to make DMA viable; hence you want a FIFO of at least 64 >> samples with an interrupt that occurs when the FIFO is almost full. >>> >>> 3. Why SPI? wont 12 Digital parallel pin faster? and BBB uses pin >>> addresses then how is DMA different from normal GPIO access? >> Because the SPI driver already supports DMA transfers. >>> >>> 4. For utilizing PRU, are you recommending ASM coding or normal C coding >>> using some library? I ham bit reluctant because of the assembly coding >>> involved because I am not that good at it, yet! >> It doesn’t matter, both will work just fine. >> >> >>> >>> Thanks a ton, >>> Rathin >>> >>> My approach in brief for people's feedback: >>> 1. Use Timer Interrupt using on-board timer periodically for generating SOC >>> 2. Detect EOC using interrupt from ADC, initiate read cycle (ISR) for all 4 >>> channels >> The processor overhead for 100ksps will mean the CPU will be running at >> close to 60% just to service the interrupts. Not a good idea. Using DMA, CPU >> will be less than 3%. >>> 3. second interrupt watching 1PPS from GPS, which would reset the Timer >>> period (as disciplining sampling) >> First, the timer is derived from the CPU PLL which multiplies the CPU >> crystal oscillator. The frequency error can be 2 to 3%. Add to that the >> Interrupt Latency of Linux, and your timing error will be bad. Also remember >> that the timing error is accumulative so you will continue to see time >> drift. Temperature changes will affect the crystal frequency as well. >>> 4. Use pipe for passing each buffer to DFT. >>> 5. Use the timing info from UART to time-stamp the DFT output >> Timing needs to be done way before you communicate this info. UART have >> significant latency as well. >> >> Regards, >> John >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:38 AM, John Syne <john...@gmail.com >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> I recommend that you look for a external ADC with a sample FIFO, then the >>> samples are measured at predefined intervals and you could read them with >>> the ARM processor and use the PRU for your timing requirements. I take it >>> you will need a disciplined oscillator sync’d to the GPS 1pps, which can be >>> done with the PRU. Using an ADC with SPI interface and FIFO means you could >>> use DMA to transfer the samples, freeing up the CPU for more important >>> work. >>> >>> Regards, >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Rathin Dholakia <rathind...@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello TJF, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your suggestion, to clarify my side further, let me elaborate. >>>> >>>> >>>> My requirement is 256 (samples per Cycle) * 50(cycles, power frequency) * >>>> 6 (channels) = 76.8 k SPS >>>> >>>> So I need overall 100k(rounded off) 100k sampling. >>>> >>>> And my input signal is between +- 10 Volts and I don't want to scale for >>>> resolution purposes. Apart from that I need dedicated ADC for each >>>> channels so I'll prefer separate ADC chip. >>>> Does this make sense? Or I am wrong? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> On Friday, April 14, 2017, TJF <jeli.f...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: >>>> Hi Rathin! >>>> >>>> Am Freitag, 14. April 2017 16:58:58 UTC+2 schrieb Rathin Dholakia: >>>> I am willing to interface, 12 bit 4 channel, Simultaneous Sampling >>>> High-Speed ADC (Analog AD7864 >>>> <http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/AD7864.pdf>) >>>> to BeagleBone Black, and operate it at 100k sampling rate. My present >>>> thoughts are to use header P8 Digital I/O pins to control the ADC as well >>>> as to read the input data from the ADC (using interrupt(s) - EOC). I will >>>> also do a DFT on the received data samples. >>>> >>>> Your target isn't very clear. Do you mean 100 k overall sampling rate (2 x >>>> 25 k)? In this case you could use the internal ADC (up to 4 x 50 k >>>> sampling rate, 0-1V8). Otherwise you'll need the external. >>>> >>>> Anyway, it should be possible when you fetch the samples by one PRU, and >>>> use the other for DFT. 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