I agree with Graham completely. Let's try to keep responses limited to
useful solutions to peoples problems.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Gudgin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:51 AM
Subject: Unfriendly messages from people who should know better


> The reason I was first attracted to this list was because of an article,
> announcing its launch (and that of the perl beginners list), in which the
> general theme was that for too long, newcomers to Perl had been subjected
> to "RTFM" in response to pleas for help. The lists were being set up to
> provide a friendly and inviting atmosphere in which to get and give help.
>
> In fact, in the FAQ for this list we have:
>
> "2.1 - What is the list for?
> A list for beginning Perl programmers to ask questions in a friendly
> atmosphere. "
>
> "2.3 - Are there any rules?
> Yes. As with most communities, there are rules. Not many, and ones that
> shouldn't need to be mentioned, but they are.
> * Be nice
> * No flaming
> * Have fun"
>
> and
>
> "2.6 - Is there anything I should keep in mind while answering?
> We don't want to see 'RTFM'. That isn't very helpful. Instead, guide the
> beginner to the place in the FM they should R :)"
>
> I find it disturbing to see these guidelines being ignored by people who
> should know better - people who have a lot of respect within the Perl
> community. Such messages as (excerpted):
>
> "Bleh! why does this program keep getting brought up?"
> "PLEASE STOP RECOMMENDING THIS PROGRAM.
> PLEASE POINT PEOPLE TO THE FAQ WHICH DETAILS THIS."
>
> and
>
> "So, you're making money using a product that thousands have
> contributed to, providing the source code so that hundreds of others
> can adapt it and fix it as they see fit, and yet you want to squander
> that by locking up *your* application?
> require 'standard/open_source_is_good-speech.pl';
> Don't expect much help *here*."
>
> This kind of "ill-tempered" response does this list (nor the respondent)
no
> favors at all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Graham Gudgin
>
>
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