--- william <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where can I learn java (beginner) instead on the java.sun.com?

William,

Needless to say, on a beginning CGI list aimed at Perl programmers, you're probably 
not going to
get a lot of responses.  However, in the interest of keeping this a helpful and 
friendly list,
I'll point you in the right direction.

First, typing in "online java tutorial" in Google revealed a plethora of links: 
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=online+java+tutorial

Most of the beginning links are at java.sun.com, but keep going through the list and 
you'll find
many that aren't.  Further, you can check out http://www.javajunkies.org/, which was 
founded by a
several programmers at perlmonks (http://www.perlmonks.org/ - down today while they 
move their
site).

As a side note:  I would recommend that most Perl programmers study Java.  Even if you 
never plan
to use it, you'll gain greater appreciation and insight into the richness and brevity 
of the Perl
language.  You'll also gain a better understand of object orientation, including the 
occassional
need to separate class and instance data in OO, something many Perl-only people fail 
to grasp.

Cheers,
Curtis "Ovid" Poe


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push@A,$_ for reverse q.e...q.n.;for(@A){$_=unpack(q|c|,$_);@a=split//;
shift@a;shift@a if $a[$[]eq$[;$_=join q||,@a};print $_,$/for reverse @A

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