Oh, dear, I was afraid that that message might be misinterpreted! I thought my humor was evident enough by the informal language, but I guess I should have put a smiley on it too.
I didn't mean hubris in a bad sense. The sense I get from Larry's use of it (from reading the Camel book), and the sense I meant here, was having enough self-confidence to believe that you *can* do all the things you mention, rather than just putting up with what is handed to you because you're too humble to think that little old you could do better. It might tend towards arrogance in some cases, maybe, especially when unwarranted by the actual talent behind it, but true arrogance connotes more negative personality traits, such as not being open to other points of view or debate, and that's *not* what I meant. I did assume familiarity with Larry's philosophy of Laziness, Impatience, and Hubris as The Basis of All Good Software Design, and maybe I shouldn't have. I'd quote some of this from the Camel book, but I don't have it with me. I would summarize it as good programmers don't like write the same thing over and over, yet if they don't like something they got elsewhere, they'll write something themselves that they like better. I suspect he intentionally chose provocative words to get people's attention, but his claim that they lead to good software design implies that far from being bad traits, he thinks that they are actually good traits, properly applied. I apologize that my message was taken negatively. I meant it positively. I support the spirit of your effort. - John --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That actually has nothing to do with it. It has > everything to do with the strong desire to improve > circumstances, be innovative, make the world a > better place. If you want to call me arrogant for > trying to improve my surroundings, go right ahead, > but your tacking the wrong name on me. > > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Brooking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Todd Wade" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: CGI.pm v/s roll-your-own [WAS:] > Displaying Problems > > > After all, Hubris is one of St. Larry's Three > Cardinal > Virtues! So this seems to me to be a properly > Perl-ish > attitude. > > - John ===== "Now it's over, I'm dead, and I haven't done anything that I want; or, I'm still alive, and there's nothing I want to do." - They Might Be Giants, http://www.tmbg.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
