At 06:30 PM 08.07.2001 +0000, Mel Matsuoka wrote:
>At 09:08 AM 08/08/2001 +0530, Karthik Krishnamurthy wrote:
> >All of the experts you are talking about started
> >out some time as clueless newbies too. They didn't
> >become experts by asking questions, the answers to
> >which they could find themselves.
>
>Good point.
>
>I didn't post a single thing to a Perl mailing list or newsgroup until
>about a year and a half /after/ I started learning Perl. The main reason
>why I didn't post is simply because I didn't really have to, since
>virtually every question or problem I had was solvable by searching the web
>or Dejanews. There are very very few totally "original" problems that no
>one has ever asked before, so chances are you'll find your answer
>yourself...you just have to get off your ass and mke the initiative to find
>and learn it for yourself first. Then after all your attempts, you are
>truly stumped, that is the time to bug the "experts" ;) Thats what learning
>and is all about.

Unfortunately, this ''issue'' will never go away for various 
reasons.  Those reasons range from the person asking the question simply 
does not know netiquette to the person is too lazy to look for the answer 
him/herself to the person is on a deadline and needs the answer now and 
just doesn't have time to look around for the answer.  I understand all of 
these because I have worn every pair of these shoes.  I am not advocating 
any reason not to RTFM but I am also being realistic that this will never 
go away.  I admire that the author of this discertation was willing to 
'splain the issue so gently yet boldly.  In fact, I found it good reading 
and I also believe that every newbie should read this paper as it is very 
informative.  But, alas, I realize that this will plainly not always 
happen.  Therefore, I continue on with my life and answer those questions 
which interest me enough to answer them...er well, that and those that I 
*can* answer =).

>This is why I have a big problem with most types of formal (esp. public)
>education. Children are taught WHAT to learn, and not HOW to learn. In my
>opinion, finding the right answer is nowhere near as important as the
>process you took in order to arrive at that answer.

I think that this is an excellent point that unfortunately everybody has 
lost site of.  Another thing is that schools are too busy trying to help 
children memorize and test them on what they memorize.  Then everyone is 
baffled when they find out that the child retained only some-odd percent of 
the information assimilated...er no, looked at last week.  Hmm, a lil off 
the topic.  Sorry bout that.  Where'd my manners go.  Ah hem...back to the 
issues at hand.  Perl rocks!  Remember, the camel is your friend.


>Aloha,
>mel
>
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