Thanks. This is helpful. I hadn't read Sheldon's page on tapers,
though I already knew that this Sugino crank is designed for JIS
taper. Sheldon also doesn't address the terms short taper, low
profile, or compact on the page...frustrating. I had looked through
the bottom bracket size chart before, but it's not helpful since the
chart assumes the crank is being use as as triple, so it gives the
measurements I've seen elsewhere (anywhere from 107-115mm).

It's good to know, Andrew, that you've already done with out any
problems what I'd like to do. I still find it odd, though, that these
terms are out there, but no one has really addressed them. Does the
term short taper simply mean that the taper is shorter, and thus the
crank bolt is in contact with fewer threads in the spindle? I'm not
sure why that would be necessary or beneficial.

-Eric

On Nov 3, 2:05 pm, Andrew Karre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've done this, actually, and it works fine. I've used a couple of non-
> PW 103 mm BBs w/ the XD as well as a a PW 103 with a Suntour XC Pro
> used as a double.I find 103 to be a handy BB for lots of double
> cranks.
>
> AK
>
> On Nov 3, 12:31 pm, esaner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm installing a Sugino XD500 triple crank on a new custom frame. I've
> > taken off the inner two chainrings and will be using the crank with
> > just the single 48t outer chainring. I installed a temporary bottom
> > bracket in the frame to measure how short of a bottom bracket spindle
> > I can use so as to achieve the smallest Q-factor (tread). The
> > temporary bottom bracket has a 115mm spindle. Based on my
> > measurements, I should be able to get by with a 103mm spindle.
>
> > I would like to use a Phil Wood bottom bracket and their 103mm version
> > is listed as "short taper." I haven't been able to find a clear
> > definition of what this means. There is confusing information
> > especially on the Harrisy Cyclery web site, which seems to use the
> > terms "short taper" "low profile" and "compact" interchangeably when
> > describing bottom brackets of this type. Sheldon describes low profile
> > cranks here:http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cranks.html, and my
> > understanding of the term compact crank is that it refers to cranks
> > with 110/74 bcds. I'm also pretty sure that this has nothing to do
> > with difference between JIS and ISO tapers.
>
> > So my questions (finally) are:
>
> > What exactly is a short taper bottom bracket? (there is an obvious
> > answer based on its name...i'm looking for a more technical answer).
>
> > What types of cranks can be used with it?
>
> > What is the relationship between the terms short taper, low profile,
> > and compact?
>
> > Can a short taper bottom bracket be safely and appropriately used with
> > a Sugino XD crank?
>
> > Will a Sugino XD crank fit differently on a short taper bottom
> > bracket, such that I will need to re-think my measurements?
>
> > Lots of questions! Thanks for all your help.
>
> > -Eric
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