There are three phases to the signal at University and Randall.
1) Eastbound (Bike lane) and Westbound - both red
2) Eastbound (Bike lane) and Westbound - both green
3) Eastbound (Bike lane) RED and Westbound - GREEN LEFT TURN ARROW.
In the past I have noted two violations here.
* In the BOTH GREEN phase westbound left turning cars do not yield to
straight ahead
eastbound bikes.
* In the WB left turn arrow and the EB RED phase eastbound bikes do not stop.
I have had trouble at other intersections when traveling EB in the bike lane.
One comes to
mind during the state high school basketball tournament. I had to stop
suddenly at University
and Francis when a car turned in front of me. I "tracked" the offender down
and asked him
why he did it. He said "I had a green light".
Mike Rewey. .
On 7 Nov 2010 at 10:11, Paddy Rourke wrote:
I also carefully surveyed this corner while in my truck around dusk. I felt I
could see bikes
coming - but I was looking for them.
I was curious what kind of signal bikes have while approaching that
intersection.
I am familiar with the light at University and Park where cars turning left get
an arrow and
bikes approaching would have a red.
On 11/07/10, Mitchell Nussbaum <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Last night, driving home, I turned left from University to Randall, and I
> took a careful look at the signs on the bike lane divider. They block a
> driver from seeing bikes for a few feet along the lane, but generally I had a
> good view, and I would have seen any bike coming eastbound before I hit it.
>
> The lighting is also fairly good there. If an unlit bike had been coming
> towards me, and I was REALLY looking for it, I would have seen it. But, in
> reality, I wouldn't be concentrating on looking for oncoming bike traffic,
> because I'd have many things to consider as I tried to make my way through
> that intersection -- the cars behind me, the cars ahead of me, possible
> jaywalkers in the crosswalk (this is the campus area, after all), my own
> speeds, etc. All the other cars, as well as my speedometer, would be
> well-illuminated; so if a dark object me at 15 mph., I might not notice until
> it was too late.
>
> Humans' perceptions and information-processing capacities are limited. If
> you want to survive, on a bike, you have to take these limitations into
> account. Bikers who ride in the dark without lights apparently don't
> understand that.
>
> From: "Robbie Webber" <[email protected]>
> To: "Patrick Lenon" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2010 1:03:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bikies] Randall and University - bike-MV crash?
>
> Yes, the University-Randall intersection was where the crash occurred. I saw
> a bike laying on the sidewalk/curb in front of Subway, on the SW corner. The
> car with the broken windshield was southbound on Randall between University
> and Johnson. It wasn't too hard to figure out what happened.
>
>
>
> As to the WRONG WAY sign, those have been added all along the counter-flow
> lane divider within the past two years. I am thrilled that they are finally
> there, because way too many bicyclists tried to use the eastbound lane as a
> two-way bike lane. There is barely enough room for the eastbound bicyclists,
> much less people going westbound.
>
>
>
> I think the signs along with actual paint in the eastbound lane, have
> significantly cut down on the number of people going the wrong way.
>
>
> As to the height of the sign, I've never noticed them obscuring my view of
> eastbound bicyclists, but as I mentioned earlier, I rarely make a left off
> that part of University, so maybe I'm the wrong person to ask. I do know that
> drivers are at all range of heights, both because of their natural sitting
> height, and the height of the vehicle seat. We all know that large SUV driver
> sit much higher than people in small cars. I agree that putting the signs
> very high would put them out of the sight line of many drivers (I have the
> same experience of drivers not noticing the lane restriction signs around the
> Square.) Moving them only a bit would probably only change which drivers'
> view was blocked.
>
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