It’s a motor cycle and belongs on the street not a bike path-just like this:On
Jul 8, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Strawser via Bikies <bikies@lists.danenet.org>
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> Brian Mink said: “I've noticed that most west coast cities that allow
> electric bikes do have rules that include behaving in regard to maximum
> speed, passing, remaining non aggressive and the like. Should Madison have
> such rules and post them? Probably.”
>
> Madison already has rules, and does post them. They are on all the wayfinding
> signs along bike paths all around town, and among those rules is this one:
> “Faster {path] users yield to slower users”
>
> Which gets to the crux of the issue – how someone operates their vehicle is
> often as important (or more important) to the safety of others than exactly
> what kind of vehicle it is.
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> Chuck Strawser
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> Subject: Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health
> Benefits of an Electric Bike
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> I happen to know folks who due to one arthritic malady or less than optimal
> joint replacement surgery have opted for electric assist bikes or wheels with
> hub motors.
>
> I also have taken note of many more cyclists of larger habitus using electric
> assist bikes. Then there are a whole bunch or cargo/kid hauler electric
> assist bikes on trails around town.
>
> I think they are a good thing. Most of us able bodied, hard core enthusiasts
> will put off or scorn the thought of using electric assist. Let's assume that
> most folks who use electric assist do so based on some need that we probably
> don't know about. Many work places don't have showers. Electric assist one
> could image, can keep one below the gushing sweat threshold on the morning
> commute.
>
> I've noticed that most west coast cities that allow electric bikes do have
> rules that include behaving in regard to maximum speed, passing, remaining
> non aggressive and the like. Should Madison have such rules and post them?
> Probably.
>
> Bottom line is: even the heartiest of urban cyclists might age into the need
> for an electric assist bicycle at some point and then we'll look back on our
> years of scorn and finally come to the conclusion that we were not being
> understanding, nice or fair.
>
> Brian Mink
> Monona
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> July 8, 2016 at 9:45 AM
> If that what it takes to get these sedentary brutes onto a bike, then let
> them ride their electric bikes on roads and not on bike paths.
> ....
> Admittedly, my n is pretty small, but I resent these lazy assholes being
> on the bike paths. And it's bogus to say these are for sedentary folks.
> > By far, the most people who use them will be former bicyclists.
>
> I personally could not see myself wanting one. (Years ago I tried one when
> someone from MGE was demo-ing one at some event and I wasn't impressed.)
> But I also don't get all the hostility about them. I don't see how
> discourteous/unsafe passing is any more or less obnoxious by someone on an
> electric-assist bike than it is by someone on a traditional bike who
> thinks he's doing Tour de France. A moron on an electric-assist bike is
> not inherently worse or more dangerous than a moron in Spandex<tm>.
>
> As for the opinion that most people using them will be former bicyclists,
> so what? If it helps keep on a bike someone who has diminished physical
> capability, what's wrong with that?
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