But Nortel systems don't have bugs . . .


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Mullis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: June 15, 2007 4:15 PM
> To: Alex @ Kovasys Inc.
> Cc: Jim Van Meggelen; Toronto Asterisk Business Group
> Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an 
> advertising campaign?
> 
> Vendor support What??? have you ever tried to get a bug fixed 
> on a Nortel system? its usually a 6 month to a 2 year process 
> vs asterisk which thousands of people are working on. 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 15:57 -0400, Alex @ Kovasys Inc. wrote:
> > Problem is that large institutions do not just need a PBX 
> system, but 
> > they need a unified messaging solution (which Asterisk is far away 
> > from -- in my humble opinion). As well as large company 
> requires this 
> > solution to be backed by large enough vendor who is not going to go 
> > out of business in a few months when something goes wrong because 
> > their business depends on it.
> > 
> > my 2 cents
> > 
> > Alex
> > VoIPGizmos.ca
> > 
> > On 6/15/07, Jim Van Meggelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > CCRA (FKA Revenue Canada) uses it. They are not fortune 500, but 
> > > they're a very large organization.
> > > Sunlabs uses it.
> > > Hundreds of educational institutions use it, from universities to 
> > > small school boards (this is where you are most likely to 
> find a good case study).
> > >
> > > It should be noted that Asterisk was not developed by 
> hobbyists. Not 
> > > even counting Digium, the folks that contribute code to 
> Asterisk are 
> > > doing it mostly for business reasons, not for fun. The fact that 
> > > there is a lot of love there is a bonus.
> > >
> > > Still, I agree that it'd be nice to have more street 
> cred, but this 
> > > is the same path that Linux had to follow. No CTO/CIO would touch 
> > > it, until one day they found out that they were ALL 
> running it. Then 
> > > all of a sudden they were telling each other how smart 
> they were for being visionary.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stephen Remillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: June 15, 2007 2:19 PM
> > > > To: Toronto Asterisk Business Group
> > > > Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an 
> advertising 
> > > > campaign?
> > > >
> > > > The problem I have here is to find serious case studies or 
> > > > testimonials of big company names that successfully deployed 
> > > > Asterisk in a decent size production environment.
> > > > The CEOs & CFOs (at least where I work) see the 
> OpenSource factor 
> > > > as a problem rather than an asset.  They are afraid of trusting 
> > > > something developed by hobbyists unless major companies (i.e 
> > > > fortune 500) trust it first.
> > > >
> > > > If someone here has links that can demonstrate some case 
> > > > studies/testimonials corresponding to the above, please 
> send them 
> > > > to me. Otherwise I'll be stuck with a Nortel BCM.
> > > >
> > > > Stephen...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 12:02 -0400, Alex @ Kovasys Inc. wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       Hello all,
> > > >
> > > >       As with everything it takes time for a product to become 
> > > > recognized
> > > >       between masses.
> > > >
> > > >       The way it is going right now, I think it will 
> evolve on its 
> > > > own.
> > > >
> > > >
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