Susan
What is your website I would like to look at it....

Cecil
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From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla


> May I ask whether you that are having a hard time selling sheep have a
> website.  I have very little trouble selling sheep to even people in 
> Idaho,
> Oklahoma, New York, Missouri, West Virgina, etc.  I get the prices I want
> and I give discount prices on small flock purchases.  I mention this 
> website
> thing because I do 99% of my business from my website.  I do not ever go 
> to
> auction to sell sheep, don't have to.  I can get $150.00 and more for ewes
> and $150.00 to $300.00 for my rams (more depending on age).  Ram lambs and
> ewe lambs are $150.00 until they are 6 months old.  I am not bragging, and
> please forgive me if it sounds that way, but I really believe that a 
> website
> makes all the difference in the world with these sheep.  I get calls and
> e-mails several times a month from people just wanting to know what a hair
> sheep is.  www.nebraskasheep.com is a website where you can ad your farm
> free.  I receive many e-mails from this site along with my own website.
> Just a thought I wanted to pass on.  Sue Smith
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>>From: "Cecil Bearden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
>>To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
>>Subject: Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla
>>Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 23:53:18 -0500
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>>You might want to check out www.Oklahomafood.coop I am going to try to
>>market my lambs thru them.  I gotta try  something....  these were 
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>>to be my retirement...
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>>Cecil
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "william bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
>>Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:42 PM
>>Subject: Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla
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>> > I've been going thru the ups and downs of Oklahoma's
>> > market too. I'm on the border of Oklahoma and
>> > Arkansas, and take my sheep about 35 miles to
>> > market(Wistor OK) A couple of months ago I sold 3
>> > rams, 2 a little over a year old and a younger one
>> > about 8 months old, two had trophy horns and the other
>> > had a good set, the two best rams brought $90. and the
>> > other a little less, then last weekend I sold 4 more
>> > and only got $52. apiece for them! It certainly is a
>> > shot it the dark taking them to the auction. The only
>> > good part is that it's a fairly small market, and not
>> > much difference is made between the sheep and goats.
>> > Another draw back is that they sell hogs first,(but it
>> > is quite entertaining to watch the young boys when
>> > that send in the wild hogs) Just as everyone has been
>> > telling you, I too should be advertising and selling
>> > out the front door, but it's hard finding time and
>> > dealing with folks. I have a co-worker that lives
>> > farther up north in Arkansas, that raises and sales
>> > Droper sheep. He sales his lambs for $100. each. Just
>> > goes out and tells the people which ones are for sale
>> > and they catch them, give him the money and away they
>> > go. That would be nice, BUT... I'm kind of in the same
>> > situation as you, we don't eat our sheep, as a matter
>> > of fact, my wife has a hard time selling the girls!
>> > so, I don't thing she would do too good with someone
>> > buying them to eat.
>> > So, I'm just going to keep on trying to break even (or
>> > a little less). P.S. I'm going tomorrow to buy Hay.
>> > THERE GOES THE PROFIT!
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>> >> Thanks for the encouragement, but I really do not
>> >> have the heart or lack of
>> >> it to butcher one of my lambs.  I have the
>> >> experience, the equipment and
>> >> could make a walk in cooler our of an old
>> >> airconditioner unit, I have done
>> >> that for others.  I can skin and butcher most any
>> >> animal, but after bringing
>> >> these guys into the world, I just can't take them
>> >> out....
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>> >> sign me gutless  in Oklahoma
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>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Barb Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 5:06 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla
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>> >> > Cecil,
>> >> > I think you're hitting on a painful truth that is
>> >> being recognized far
>> >> > and wide - that the small farmer, in order to
>> >> survive, has to go direct
>> >> > to the consumer.  Most farmers don't want to be
>> >> marketers.  But a lot of
>> >> > consumers out there are getting wise to the
>> >> consequences of factory
>> >> > farming.  They WANT to meet the farmer, to buy
>> >> natural food, to be
>> >> > educated about the differences between factory
>> >> raised and farm raised,
>> >> > and to get in touch with their food again.
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>> >> > The person who has to buy it can never experience
>> >> the almost holy
>> >> > experience of conjuring perfect food up from the
>> >> earth, and raising it
>> >> > and ultimately eating it, but it doesn't take long
>> >> to educate the palate
>> >> > to the difference between real food and
>> >> adulterated.  In our case, our
>> >> > bodies are beginning to reject anything that isn't
>> >> raised on the farm,
>> >> > or isn't organic.
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>> >> > We have to start with something that nobody else
>> >> has, and we have that!
>> >> > Then we have to raise it so it is better than
>> >> anything else - and I
>> >> > think Blackbelly can be better or WORSE than
>> >> store-bought, depending on
>> >> > how it's raised - and then we have to get a leash
>> >> on our independent
>> >> > spirits and go out and get our customers.
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>> >> > There is a LOT written on farmer-to-consumer these
>> >> days, it's becoming
>> >> > critical to survival of the small farm.  It CAN be
>> >> done.  But we have to
>> >> > get off the farm to get people to come to the
>> >> farm.  This is going to be
>> >> > the worst part of all of it for me.  That, and
>> >> taking somebody's money
>> >> > from their hand, and not through the sale yard
>> >> office.
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>> >> > YOU need encourangement, my friend, and maybe
>> >> start reading up on the
>> >> > experiences of other farmer-entrepreneurs.  I can
>> >> make some reading
>> >> > suggestions, and perhaps others can share some of
>> >> their marketing
>> >> > expertise.  I am scared to death too, but having
>> >> had a promising
>> >> > experience this spring, I know my upscale market
>> >> is out there, I know
>> >> > that certain people will say "name your price" if
>> >> you give them a
>> >> > sample.  They don't have to be health conscious,
>> >> they can just be
>> >> > enthusiastic foodies.
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>> >> > There is a whole new movement to "eat locally" -
>> >> it is going to be as
>> >> > powerful as the organic movement.  They say most
>> >> of our food has
>> >> > travelled at least 1500 miles to arrive on our
>> >> plates.  That is not
>> >> > sustainable, it's not supporting the local
>> >> community, and people are
>> >> > beginning to twig that agriculture - food - the
>> >> staff of life - is
>> >> > slowly coming under the control of a few
>> >> mega-corporations that don't
>> >> > care about raising food, they care about making a
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>> >> > Cecil, there are so many reasons to keep trying,
>> >> and to reach out of
>> >> > this murderous commodities box and enter the
>> >> farmer-to-consumer
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>> >> > YOU have so much skill, and so much to offer!
>> >> Please, let's all start
>> >> > educating ourselves about these critical issues
>> >> and stop trying to
>> >> > compete in the commodities markets!  Our buyers
>> >> are out there!  We just
>> >> > ALL need to learn how to make the farm-fresh,
>> >> exquisite, perfect food
>> >> > experience accessible to people who are -
>> >> literally - dying for it!!!
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>> >> > Kindest regards to you Cecil!
>> >> >
>> >> > Barb Lee - Proud to have had a Greek chef declare
>> >> of my lamb, "This is
>> >> > the SWEETEST lamb I have ever tasted!"
>> >> >
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