Warren Wilder wrote these words on 05/22/06 08:14 CST:
> I've noticed that a lot of emails about DBUS and HAL are passing by lately.
> (Currrently I have udev as well as hotplug working for me.)
> I picked up that HAL and DBUS are great for detecting hotpluggable
> media, 

DBUS is a low-level backend for applications to pass messages
between them. HAL talks to DBUS for the information. So, yes
together, they can detect hardware (hot pluggable, or not) on
the system.


> creating a desktop icon, mounting them as the device that they
> are and such.

No HAL/DBUS does not do these things. These things are left for
different userspace tools. HAL just provides the information.

> Basically great stuff.

To some. To others it is a step in a direction towards too much
automation and handholding of the Linux OS. I am in the crowd that
thinks it's great. :-)


> But are these two technologies actually going to replace the udev and
> hotplug cooperation, or at least hotplug?

Hotplug is already gone, deprecated, call it what you like. And
DBUS/HAL is *not* designed to replace Udev. Udev is responsible for
creating the device files, when the kernel detects hardware. I am
not sure what is responsible for loading kernel modules required
for the hardware.


> If so, is it a sane idea to remove hotplug and continue with DBUS, or
> are they so interwined into the system that I'm better of integrating
> these things when I decide to start LFS anew sometime.

Not sure what you mean here. Hotplug is already removed, UDEV is its
own beast and the decision to use, or not use, DBUS is up to you.

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