I don't understand what you are doing with the Microsoft Virtual PC software in using with VINUX. Can you explain just a little. I am aquainted with VINUX so know what it is all about. Just don't know why you are using the Microsoft Virtual PC software with it.
Thanks Jim At 08:22 PM 5/4/2009 +0200, you wrote: >It's a modification to Ubuntu linux which already has a built in >screenreader called Orca to fine tune/make it automatically render >accessible from startup etc. > >Check out that website: >http://vinux.org.uk/ > >It will give you a better idea. > >Stay well > >Jacob Kruger >Blind Biker >Skype: BlindZA >'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Trepan Singh" <ts.neg...@gmail.com> >To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:40 PM >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Virtual PC software > > >> Hello, what's vinux? Please tell me the usage. Thanks >> Regards >> Trepan Singh >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com >> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang >> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:45 PM >> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Virtual PC software >> >> Good afternoon Jacob (at least in your time zone), >> >> Perhaps I made a typo, I have not scanned past messages. The proper key >> to >> bring up the Vinux menu is Left Alt + F1! Sorry, if I wasted a lot of >> your >> time. The Left Alt + F2 keystroke will certainly bring up a run dialog, >> similar to the Windows + r in Windows. Of course, in Vinux, you would >> need >> >> to type in a Linux command. >> >> Back to the subject line. I had not realized that the Microsoft emulator >> that you first discussed was a new product. I was too concentrated on >> Vinux >> >> at the time. Some experts I follow say this emulator is much better than >> VM-Ware or Parallels, which have been around a long time. In fact, I hear >> Microsoft plans on making this technology part of their legacy support for >> XP and prior versions in the future. What is your impressions of it so >> far? >> >> Have you used it for any other OS than Vinux? >> >> Don Marang >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@iburst.co.za> >> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Virtual PC software >> >> >>> Ok. >>> >>> Been trying out various things like leaving jaws on, or turning it off, >>> tried different keyboards like my external USB keyboard, and the laptops >>> own keyboard, and no matter what I do, like even tapping things like the >>> Ctrl key multiple times, all I get when I try either left or right alt >>> keys in conjunction with F2 is the run dialogue, and other keys also >>> seemt >> >>> ot get stuck sometimes like a shift key, etc. etc., and, for example no >>> matter what I do, I can't seem to type backslash, since it renders as the >>> number symbol, which doesn't even make sense since if it was just the >>> shift key being virtually stuck, it should then render as |, so who >>> knows. >>> >>> Think this is also hence interfering with even accessing menus on >>> specific >> >>> windows since can't seem to find a file menu, for example, when browsing >>> the home folder using Ctrl + Shift + H. >>> >>> Will just again say that not too impressed with VMWare, but anyway. >>> >>> Might have to try this on another computer to see if that makes a >>> difference, but let's see... >>> >>> Stay well >>> >>> Jacob Kruger >>> Blind Biker >>> Skype: BlindZA >>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com> >>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Virtual PC software >>> >>> >>>> Not quite sure why your keys are acting that way. >>>> >>>> After activating any menu, I am able to use the standard arrow keys to >>>> move up and down through menus and right arrow to enter a sub menu and >>>> left menu to return from a sub menu. In the Vinux-desktop.txt file, it >>>> claims that increasing the speed is bound to the Insert + right arrow >>>> keys. It sounds like your Insert key is stuck! I have never had that >>>> key stick. Perhaps it is because JAWS has been turned off? That might >>>> change how the system handles the Insert key. I have not had to turn >>>> off >> >>>> JAWS. >>>> >>>> I assume that by the fact that you were able to login that you had used >>>> the Control + g keystroke to allow all keys, including modifier keys to >>>> be directed to VM-Ware Player. This should stop JAWS from receiving >>>> these keystrokes or speaking. It should not be necessary to quit JAWS. >>>> >>>> Don Marang >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@iburst.co.za> >>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 3:37 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Virtual PC software >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ok. >>>>> >>>>> Now managed to log into VMWare machine using username/password >>>>> combination, so thanks for that one, >>>>> but I assume jaws is catching key combos so will try turning it off or >>>>> something and will then see if can access something like the >>>>> Ubuntu/vinux >>>>> menu system. >>>>> >>>>> Note: >>>>> Just turned off jaws, and using the left Alt key in conjunction with >>>>> F2, >> >>>>> it seemed to activate the main part of the menu, but you seem to have >>>>> to >> >>>>> use the numpad cursor keys to start navigating it since normal cursor >>>>> keys seem to be bound to orca settings like faster/slower etc., and for >>>>> some reason I can't get any submenu items to appear, but will carry on >>>>> playing around with it. >>>>> >>>>> Also seem unable to do something like minimize/hide the orca settings >>>>> dialogue. >>>>> >>>>> Stay well >>>>> >>>>> Jacob Kruger >>>>> Blind Biker >>>>> Skype: BlindZA >>>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 10:33 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Virtual PC software >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> For anyone using Vinux in an emulator and can get to the username >>>>>> prompt: >>>>>> The only account I am aware of in this distribution when first >>>>>> starting >> >>>>>> is >>>>>> "vinux" (all lowercase) for both the Username and Password. I just >>>>>> tried >>>>>> it twice. The first time it would give a beep when I typed each >>>>>> character >>>>>> and the second time it did not provide any feedback. Perhaps this was >>>>>> because I had Magic running the first time. By the way, There is a >>>>>> big >>>>>> Ubuntu spelled across the login screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do not expect to hear the letters when entering either the Username or >>>>>> Password. The guy that packaged the Vinux distribution says there is >>>>>> currently no way around this limitation. >>>>>> >>>>>> After a few seconds the Vinux desktop appears and Orca starts >>>>>> speaking! >>>>>> >>>>>> It is useful to know that the left Alt + F1 key takes you too the >>>>>> Vinux >>>>>> menus at the very top of the screen. It contains an Applications, >>>>>> Places >>>>>> and System menus. Programs like Open Office an Firefox can be >>>>>> launched >>>>>> from the Applications menu. I was disappointed that all of the drives >>>>>> that were mounted automatically and available in the Places menu with >>>>>> the >>>>>> Live CD were not configured here. Look in the Vinux folder for text >>>>>> files >>>>>> describing most of the key bindings. The System menu allows you to >>>>>> set >>>>>> preferences and shutdown. >>>>>> >>>>>> The applications key, like in Windows, often provides useful options. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have trouble remembering that the Enter key on the keypad is not the >>>>>> same as the Return key on the main keyboard. The Enter key instead >>>>>> announces where you are! Somewhat like a more verbose version of the >>>>>> JAWS >>>>>> + Tab function. >>>>>> >>>>>> With the VMWare Player I found the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. When I first start the program I get a dialog telling me there is >>>>>> an >>>>>> update to VMWare Player. So far I have just pressed Tab to get to the >>>>>> Cancel button and activated it. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Then I get a dialog that does not work with the JAWS PC cursor. >>>>>> It >>>>>> lets you select a new file by browsing, picking a recently opened file >>>>>> or >>>>>> downloading a new distribution. I use the JAWS cursor to find Vinux >>>>>> in >>>>>> the recently opened section and clicking on it. I believe the first >>>>>> time >>>>>> I had to use the browse button. I may be able to create a shortcut on >>>>>> my >>>>>> desktop that passes the filename on the command line. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Then a dialog appears to explain how the hardware is shared >>>>>> between >>>>>> the emulator and Windows. So far I have just pressed Enter. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Vinux now starts booting in the window. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. To turn control of the keyboard to Vinux (or any other operating >>>>>> system in VMWare Player), press Control + g. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. to switch back to windows, press Control + Alt together. This is >>>>>> a >>>>>> strange combination, since they both are just modifier keys. I would >>>>>> think that would limit any Control + Alt + any other key combinations >>>>>> from >>>>>> being used in Vinux. I have not seen any such combination needed yet. >>>>>> I >>>>>> have had a slight problem where either the Control or Alt key gets >>>>>> stuck >>>>>> after returning to Windows and JAWS. I normally press Escape >>>>>> afterwards >>>>>> to check if either key is stuck. If it is, I press the right Control >>>>>> and >>>>>> Alt keys again to release the stuck key. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope these tidbits help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don Marang >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@iburst.co.za> >>>>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 5:49 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Virtual PC software >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Downloaded it and tried it out, and it seems to work Ok, except that >>>>>>> again, after I hear Orca saying I must enter a username and password, >>>>>>> nothing seems to happen, but will test it a bit more, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also did stop jaws once I told it to start, but should maybe stop it >>>>>>> before even trying to open it as well - will test it a bit more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stay well >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacob Kruger >>>>>>> Blind Biker >>>>>>> Skype: BlindZA >>>>>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:49 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Virtual PC software >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Jacob, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you tried the virtual machine at the Vinux site? It is called, >>>>>>>> "Vinux_Virtual_Edition_1.4.exe" and is configured for Vinux. Read >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> accompanying text file for details. Go to the downloads page at: >>>>>>>> http://vinux.org.uk/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don Marang >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS I hear a new exciting distribution of Ubuntu, the Linux variant >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> which Vinux is based has just come out! It is Ubuntu 2.0. I have >>>>>>>> heard >>>>>>>> great things from several PC experts. I wonder if a Vinux 2.0 will >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> available soon? >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@iburst.co.za> >>>>>>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 7:07 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] Microsoft Virtual PC software >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone tested MS's own VMWare product? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's called Microsoft Virtual PC FWIW. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's free, and the configuration wizard etc. seem pretty usable, >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> have to either try find a valid VPC image that's already had an OS >>>>>>>>> installed, or maybe get a sighted person to try help me, for >>>>>>>>> example, >>>>>>>>> install something like Vinux, or an older MS Os so I can see if I >>>>>>>>> can, >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> example, try out their screenreader utilisation, but I think it >>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>> since in my first test run, I could tell it the new VPC I was >>>>>>>>> configuring >>>>>>>>> would think it had a sound blaster card etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, here's the details/download page: >>>>>>>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com:80/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=28C97D22-6EB8-4A >> 09-A7F7-F6C7A1F000B5&displaylang=en >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FWIW, once I start up my virtual pc machine, I do need to use the >>>>>>>>> jaws >>>>>>>>> cursor to get to some of the activity menus, but not really a >>>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok, while typing this message, I realised I was being stoopid, so I >>>>>>>>> started >>>>>>>>> the VPC, and told it to mount the Vinux live CD image and then told >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> restart/reboot, and it did seem to be virtually booting up from the >>>>>>>>> CD >>>>>>>>> image >>>>>>>>> since I heard the sound prompt to hit enter to make it start >>>>>>>>> running >> >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> live >>>>>>>>> mode, so will have to test it a bit more - LOL! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For those who don't know, Vinux is a modified/tweaked version of >>>>>>>>> Ubuntu >>>>>>>>> linux that automatically makes things like the Orca screenreader >>>>>>>>> start, >>>>>>>>> and has also, apparently, had it's whole user interface tweaked to >>>>>>>>> suit >>>>>>>>> us better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stay well >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacob Kruger >>>>>>>>> Blind Biker >>>>>>>>> Skype: BlindZA >>>>>>>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>>>>>> signature >>>>>>>>> database 4047 (20090430) __________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>>>>>> signature database 4047 (20090430) __________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.c >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>>>>>> signature database 4048 (20090501) __________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>>>>> signature database 4048 (20090501) __________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>>>> signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>> >>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>>> signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ >>>>>> >>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>> signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ >>>>> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>> signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ >>>>> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> >>>> >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>> signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 4051 (20090504) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4052 (20090504) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4052 (20090504) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > > > > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
