Hi
Again, 100% false. Especially these days.
Even the cheapest phone in 2017, so long as it isn’t coming to you from 
someplace like china where the play store isn’t allowed has talkback out of the 
box, has everything accessible and usable.
The days of android being less accessible than apple are pretty much over with.
Sorry if I keep saying that, I’m trying to actually set the record straight on 
this because it’s a falsehood that many in this community are set on. It isn’t 
perfect, yet. But getting there and is far, far more open and allowing than 
apple. And considering apples price increases

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: November 9, 2017 7:15 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates

Apple stuff is accessible, android well the fact you can have 
customisations and manufacturer screens and therefor inaccessible 
interfaces meaning a user has to do untold things to get their stuff 
configured is not me.

The pluss is the extra configuration options I guess, for me I have used 
symbian on my nokia and am happy with closed souced programs I don'

't want a modified thingy.

With apple I have 1 client software to handle, 1 constant os and thats it.

I wouldn't ever get the latest device but still who knows.

A friend has both one for games and an android for phone.




On 10/11/2017 3:46 a.m., john wrote:
> You make an excellent point, and one that's only likely to grow stronger 
> given Apple's new pricing model.
>
>
> From: Milos Przic
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 6:07
> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
>
>
> 
> Hello,
> This is certainly not true for the hole World. I am aware that in the US, for 
> example, things might be close to what you are saying, even though the US has 
> a relatively big Android users' community, but when you look at it from the 
> non-US perspective, you get a way bigger community. I think that among us 
> blind there are more users of Android than those of IOS, and this number is 
> getting bigger every day for many reasons. It is another question who would 
> be willing to pay and how much, but I am sure that the number of those who 
> actually would use the in-app purchases possibility would be equal to those 
> who did and would do this on Iphone.
> So I want to use this occasion to tell the developers not to look on the hole 
> World from the US perspective. Ok, the quality of life there might be better 
> than in many other parts of the World at least when it comes to economy, but 
> America is not the center of the World, and many people from there tend to 
> behave as if it were so, doing damage to their own businesses. I myself was 
> surprised when I discovered how much Android is used among the blind when I 
> became an Android user myself. So please do not make assumptions based on no 
> evidence and from the US-centric point of view.
> When it comes to reprogramming and recoding, yes, it is quite a work, long 
> and hard, but if the Apple is not clear about how many apps a developer can 
> publish and how similar or different they should be between each other, it 
> really means that "alternative" optionns are a better way.
> Best,
>            Miloš
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: john
>    To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>    Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:25 AM
>    Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
>
>
>    Josh:
>    It almost certainly would not be worth it. In the blind community, it 
> seems that Android is actually only used by a small, if very loyal, group of 
> people. I'll say this platform loyalty transfers into double sales, but even 
> so, 5%*2=10% of original sales figures. That's not worth it.
>
>
>    From: Josh Kennedy
>    Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 22:29
>    To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>    Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
>
>
>    yes it would take time. but would be worth it i think.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    On 11/8/2017 21:49, Liam Erven wrote:
>
>      Josh. You realize all of his games would have to be rewritten from the 
> ground up right?
>
>      It’s not exactly a rainy day project.
>
>       
>
>       
>
>      Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>       
>
>      From: Josh Kennedy
>      Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:46 PM
>      To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>      Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
>
>       
>
>      just switch to google play store so we android users can have more games 
> please. thanks. and a new talkback just came out recently 6.0 beta. it works 
> very good.
>
>       
>
>       
>
>      On 11/8/2017 20:37, Liam Erven wrote:
>
>        It’s unfortunate, but I’ve talked to some other developpers who have 
> had the same issues.
>
>        Mainly developpers who are designing apps as 3rd parties get hit by 
> this.
>
>        I will certainly write and Call Apple though. Maybe enough people can 
> give you some sort of free pass, though I doubt it.
>
>         
>
>        Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>         
>
>        From: Joe Quinn
>        Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 7:28 PM
>        To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>        Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
>
>         
>
>        What does this mean for the end-user? Will we still be able to do in 
> app  purchases?
>
>        Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>        On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Marty Schultz 
> <ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com> wrote:
>
>          I just finished talking with an Apple representative, and Apple’s 
> decision is that unless I merge the 80 Blindfold Games into a handful of 
> apps, they will no longer allow new games to be released or allow updates to 
> be make.
>
>          From a technology perspective, that’s extremely hard and 
> time-consuming.  From a business perspective, that would mean spending 
> hundreds of hours recoding the games, with no possible return-on-investment.  
> Most of the games generate sales in the first three months of the game being 
> released, and I’ve been building these games for 4 years.
>
>          From a usability perspective, that means the main menus would be 
> ridiculously complex, and the settings screens would be confusing and almost 
> unusable.
>
>          If you are unhappy with this decision, you can express your opinion 
> to Apple.  The accessibility desk is at accessibil...@apple.com or you can 
> call 1-800-MY-APPLE.  Thanks to everyone for enjoying my games.
>
>         
>
>
>
>
>
> -- sent with mozilla thunderbird
>
>
>





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