there would hardly be any troubleshooting. because something like github
keeps all code in synk at all times. open source requires that all code
changes be approved and monitored. if this were not the case then NVDA
and other open source stuff would be a big crashing mess. but yet it is
not. it is stable and works. there are guidelines and rules in place to
see that open source works. I am willing to beta test blindfold android
games. oh and by the way, when the blindfold android games are no longer
in beta and you push the final update to the play store then I will buy
them because the beta will be replaced with the new official stable app.
I have my apps set to auto update at anytime.
On 11/9/2017 12:35, Charles Rivard wrote:
If Android phones are catching up with the Apple models, great! I’m
all for improvement on both.
To me, it is logical that there would be troubleshooting difficulties
if the code were open source because of the vast changes that someone
other than the original developer has made, and you call the
originator of the program for help. As I have been told by
developers, this is one main reason that they have produced for the
Apple platform. In a lot of ways, a closed environment is better, and
it is also safer from viruses and hacks. Also, an app from the app
store will work on most, if not all, iPhones or iPads and iPods as
long as they use a 64 bit processor. One app works on them all, with
some exceptions that are exclusively for iPads.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
*From:* Tyler Wood <mailto:tcwoo...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2017 11:26 AM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
There is a lot of falsehood going around as far as android goes.
Yes, it has its problems. So does apple – especially with this new iOS
11 build. Victor is on the eyes free list addressing the list at large
and is part of the talkback team, so android is climbing up the ladder
and I’d say these days is on very equal ground with apple.
And, Charles, all someone has to do is make in app purchases. Make the
game itself something like 10, 15 dollars. It does, after all contain
80 games (or adjust the price accordingly when different packs are
released, e.g. blindfold cards).
This is just my thoughts, though. Apparently I’m in the minority on this.
We should at the very least be trying to find a compromise rather than
throwing blame everywhere.
*From: *Charles Rivard <mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com>
*Sent: *November 9, 2017 9:28 AM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
I base what I’ve said on what game developers, who I figure have
researched to find the best market for their apps, have found.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
*From:* Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2017 8:57 AM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
are you sure about that? because the eyes-free android list has huge
amounts of list traffic on it from many different people, all blind,
all using android, all using talkback or some variation of talkback.
Are you on the eyes-free list? android is excellent and getting better
all the time. Whoever told you android is a tiny market has
misinformed you unfortunately I think. It's true back in 2009 through
2012 android was still getting its footing so to speak. But now
android and IOS are quite close as far as their accessibility
features. As of the latest talkback beta, talkback can label buttons
automatically for you most of the time. It has verbosity options
similar to jaws, different reading modes like those in voiceover, and
very good web support. With the latest brailleback app we now have
grade2 braille input. If blindfold games were open sourced, other
developers could help the main developer work on the android versions.
and talkback also works good with my RCA galileo pro android 6.0
tablet with physical keyboard, thanks to talkbacks many customiseable
keyboard shortcuts.
On 11/9/2017 05:25, john wrote:
Josh:
It almost certainly would not be worth it. In the blind community,
it seems that Android is actually only used by a small, if very
loyal, group of people. I'll say this platform loyalty transfers
into double sales, but even so, 5%*2=10% of original sales
figures. That's not worth it.
*From:* Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 08, 2017 22:29
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
yes it would take time. but would be worth it i think.
On 11/8/2017 21:49, Liam Erven wrote:
Josh. You realize all of his games would have to be rewritten
from the ground up right?
It’s not exactly a rainy day project.
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*From: *Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:46 PM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or Updates
just switch to google play store so we android users can have
more games please. thanks. and a new talkback just came out
recently 6.0 beta. it works very good.
On 11/8/2017 20:37, Liam Erven wrote:
It’s unfortunate, but I’ve talked to some other
developpers who have had the same issues.
Mainly developpers who are designing apps as 3^rd parties
get hit by this.
I will certainly write and Call Apple though. Maybe enough
people can give you some sort of free pass, though I doubt it.
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*From: *Joe Quinn <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, November 8, 2017 7:28 PM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] No more Blindfold Games or
Updates
What does this mean for the end-user? Will we still be
able to do in app purchases?
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On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Marty Schultz
<ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com
<mailto:ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com>> wrote:
I just finished talking with an Apple representative,
and Apple’s decision is that unless I merge the 80
Blindfold Games into a handful of apps, they will no
longer allow new games to be released or allow updates
to be make.
From a technology perspective, that’s extremely hard
and time-consuming. From a business perspective, that
would mean spending hundreds of hours recoding the
games, with no possible return-on-investment. Most of
the games generate sales in the first three months of
the game being released, and I’ve been building these
games for 4 years.
From a usability perspective, that means the main
menus would be ridiculously complex, and the settings
screens would be confusing and almost unusable.
If you are unhappy with this decision, you can express
your opinion to Apple. The accessibility desk is at
accessibil...@apple.com
<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>or you can call
1-800-MY-APPLE. Thanks to everyone for enjoying my games.
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