Josh:  Do you know the meaning of “NO!!”?  Marty is NOT going to develop for 
Androids!!!

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> On Nov 10, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> maybe a crowd-sourcing or some sort of funding campaign could be set up to 
> raise money for blindfold games on android? 
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:      Re: blindfold games for android
> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:29:02 +0000
> From: 'John' via eyes-free <eyes-f...@googlegroups.com>
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> To:   eyes-f...@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hello
> 
> Android and IOS are two very different systems but
> it is as easy to produce accessible apps from both.
> 
> The problem is the  return from Android is very low to nil even with the 
>  low developing costs.
> 
> IOS is very expensive to code for but is offset by the numbers who 
> download and are willing to pay for apps.
> 
> The workload Blindfold games would have to do is huge and would be for 
> probably little or no return.
> 
> I would suggest that Blindfold Games start a funding drive to cover the 
> costs of converting the apps to Android such as kickstarter or some such 
> service.
> 
> I wish them all the luck in the world.
> 
> John from Woodside Apps. - Accessible Apps and games for mobile devices.
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> On 10/11/2017 07:07, lenron brown wrote:
> > Android 2.1 was when I stepped in to the world of Android and even
> > then I was pretty happy with the access. ICS was when I got really
> > excited though.
> >
> > On 11/9/17, Danny Mathis <danny.mat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> HI
> >>
> >> I wonder why the developer never gave thought to developing for Android?
> >> Oh
> >>  wait, I know; Android IS NOT accessible!!  No, it is ONLY PARTIALLY
> >>  accessible and NOT ENOUGH blind users!!"  So dead on, when I was at
> >> LWSB as an assistant instructor I tried my darndist to educate Dean
> >> the head instructor about androijd.  His answer "My friend says
> >> android is not as accessible, he owns an android device".  Me, "I'm an
> >> android generation 1 user, I've had several android devices,  what do
> >> you not find accessible?"  Dean "it can not perform taskks as well as
> >> voiceover on the IPhone".  Sadly the blind institutions still push IOS
> >> over IPhone and this dev fell for it line, hook and sinker.  Parden
> >> the pund, the dork even blew me off as well.  I'll go out on a lim
> >> here as well, Steve nut and a select few have me be by 1.6 or donut.
> >> I came in 2.1 have been around for a lot of time.  I have a board on
> >> zonebbs "The Boards - Recommended android apps
> >> "  see link:  https://www.zonebbs.com/boards.php?t=24861 its still
> >> kept updated to day.  So while I would love to help marty should my
> >> coding classes pan out, marty has to pull his head out of the past and
> >> approach a android dev or me later on.
> >>
> >> Dan Mathis
> >>
> >> Ps  LWSB in little rock AR has zero excuses for teaching android, a
> >> tablit was donated by me running lollipop 5.1.
> >>
> >> On 11/9/17, Tina Sohl <tinabi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I agree. Would love to have them on the play store. I know Marty
> >>> couldn't, or wasn't interested in bringing them to android or even
> >>> windows. I hope someone will a lot of them sound like fun.
> >>>
> >>> On 11/9/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> That's such a shame that he didn't! pursue things with Android, as that
> >>>> would have really been full on!
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Christopher Gilland
> >>>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.gshministry.org
> >>>> (980) 500-9575
> >>>>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>   From: Judy Jones
> >>>>   To: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com
> >>>>   Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 4:29 PM
> >>>>   Subject: RE: blindfold games for android
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   Yes, but there are really blind people out there who still believe
> >>>> that
> >>>> because they have been told it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   Judy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   From: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com [mailto:eyes-f...@googlegroups.com]
> >>>> On
> >>>> Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
> >>>>   Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 9:47 AM
> >>>>   To: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com; Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD,
> >>>> Inc.
> >>>>   Subject: Re: blindfold games for android
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   oh come on you gotta be kidding me! android not accessible or
> >>>> partially
> >>>> accessible? that is rediculous! maybe that was true with android
> >>>> gingerbread
> >>>> and icecream sandwitch in 2010 and 2011 but starting with jellybean in
> >>>> 2012
> >>>> android accessibility began to greatly catch up with IOS. These days its
> >>>> just as good as apple stuff, but without the high development costs of
> >>>> apple. I had a tablet running on 4.1 jellybean and it worked fine. My
> >>>> android marshmallow tablet is better than that one and I'm sure android
> >>>> nougat and the later oreo will be even better. but not really because
> >>>> everything in android is an app. so i get webview virtual web buffer
> >>>> updates
> >>>> and talkback updates and accessibility API updates even though my
> >>>> devices
> >>>> may still be on android marshmallow and lollipop.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   On 11/9/2017 12:37, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh, you won't need to buy an iOS device for the Blind Fold games.
> >>>> Why?Well, Apple changed some format; the developer MUST MIGRATE to the
> >>>> newformat for continued development.  Developer believes that such a
> >>>> migrationwill be an expensive proposition and therefore unwilling to
> >>>> dance
> >>>> to thesound of Apple's drums!  Therefore, there shall be NO FURTHER
> >>>> development orupdates for Blind Fold games.   In addition, developer
> >>>> only
> >>>> made money within a three-month period followingrelease of games;
> >>>> otherwise,
> >>>> it's flat land here and there. I wonder why the developer never gave
> >>>> thought
> >>>> to developing for Android?  Ohwait, I know; Android IS NOT accessible!!
> >>>> No,
> >>>> it is ONLY PARTIALLYaccessible and NOT ENOUGH blind users!! Anyway, if I
> >>>> can
> >>>> find more extracts from the developer, I'll post in thisspace.
> >>>> Sincerely,OlusegunDenver, Colorado  ---This email has been checked for
> >>>> viruses by Avast antivirus software.https://www.avast.com/antivirus
> >>>>
> >>>>
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