Welcome to game-exclusivity, a constant fact of what being a gamer is
all about: you want to play a specific game not available on the
systems you have? You'll have to fork out the necessary money to buy
that new system plus the game. It's how the gaming industry has worked
for the passed forty or so years.

On 11/10/17, Paul Lemm <paul.lem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi josh, from a coding stand point it would take so long to convert the
> games to a different platform, it just wouldn’t be worth it. Rather than
> putting money into a crowd funding  campaign, if you really want to play the
> games so badly why not just go out and spend the money you’d put into crowd
> funding and buy a second hand iPhone instead as  the older models are pretty
> cheap, and there’s nothing to stop you having both an android and an iPhone
> that way you get to play the games from both devices, sighted people have to
> do the same with consoles there are many games that are only out on either
> xbox or playstation and the people that want to play both  buy both consoles
> rather than bugging the developer to rewrite their games from scratch just
> so they don’t have to buy another console.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> From: blind-gamers@groups.io [mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Josh Kennedy
> Sent: 10 November 2017 17:16
> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] blindfold games for android
>
>
>
> maybe a crowd-sourcing or some sort of funding campaign could be set up to
> raise money for blindfold games on android?
>
>
>
>
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> Re: blindfold games for android
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> Date:
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> Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:29:02 +0000
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> From:
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> 'John' via eyes-free  <mailto:eyes-f...@googlegroups.com>
> <eyes-f...@googlegroups.com>
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> Hello
>
> Android and IOS are two very different systems but
> it is as easy to produce accessible apps from both.
>
> The problem is the  return from Android is very low to nil even with the
>  low developing costs.
>
> IOS is very expensive to code for but is offset by the numbers who
> download and are willing to pay for apps.
>
> The workload Blindfold games would have to do is huge and would be for
> probably little or no return.
>
> I would suggest that Blindfold Games start a funding drive to cover the
> costs of converting the apps to Android such as kickstarter or some such
> service.
>
> I wish them all the luck in the world.
>
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> On 10/11/2017 07:07, lenron brown wrote:
>> Android 2.1 was when I stepped in to the world of Android and even
>> then I was pretty happy with the access. ICS was when I got really
>> excited though.
>>
>> On 11/9/17, Danny Mathis  <mailto:danny.mat...@gmail.com>
>> <danny.mat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> HI
>>>
>>> I wonder why the developer never gave thought to developing for Android?
>>> Oh
>>>  wait, I know; Android IS NOT accessible!!  No, it is ONLY PARTIALLY
>>>  accessible and NOT ENOUGH blind users!!"  So dead on, when I was at
>>> LWSB as an assistant instructor I tried my darndist to educate Dean
>>> the head instructor about androijd.  His answer "My friend says
>>> android is not as accessible, he owns an android device".  Me, "I'm an
>>> android generation 1 user, I've had several android devices,  what do
>>> you not find accessible?"  Dean "it can not perform taskks as well as
>>> voiceover on the IPhone".  Sadly the blind institutions still push IOS
>>> over IPhone and this dev fell for it line, hook and sinker.  Parden
>>> the pund, the dork even blew me off as well.  I'll go out on a lim
>>> here as well, Steve nut and a select few have me be by 1.6 or donut.
>>> I came in 2.1 have been around for a lot of time.  I have a board on
>>> zonebbs "The Boards - Recommended android apps
>>> "  see link:  https://www.zonebbs.com/boards.php?t=24861 its still
>>> kept updated to day.  So while I would love to help marty should my
>>> coding classes pan out, marty has to pull his head out of the past and
>>> approach a android dev or me later on.
>>>
>>> Dan Mathis
>>>
>>> Ps  LWSB in little rock AR has zero excuses for teaching android, a
>>> tablit was donated by me running lollipop 5.1.
>>>
>>> On 11/9/17, Tina Sohl  <mailto:tinabi...@gmail.com> <tinabi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I agree. Would love to have them on the play store. I know Marty
>>>> couldn't, or wasn't interested in bringing them to android or even
>>>> windows. I hope someone will a lot of them sound like fun.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/9/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland  <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>
>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> That's such a shame that he didn't! pursue things with Android, as
>>>>> that
>>>>> would have really been full on!
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.gshministry.org
>>>>> (980) 500-9575
>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>   From: Judy Jones
>>>>>   To: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com
>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 4:29 PM
>>>>>   Subject: RE: blindfold games for android
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Yes, but there are really blind people out there who still believe
>>>>> that
>>>>> because they have been told it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Judy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   From: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com [mailto:eyes-f...@googlegroups.com]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 9:47 AM
>>>>>   To: eyes-f...@googlegroups.com; Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD,
>>>>> Inc.
>>>>>   Subject: Re: blindfold games for android
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   oh come on you gotta be kidding me! android not accessible or
>>>>> partially
>>>>> accessible? that is rediculous! maybe that was true with android
>>>>> gingerbread
>>>>> and icecream sandwitch in 2010 and 2011 but starting with jellybean in
>>>>> 2012
>>>>> android accessibility began to greatly catch up with IOS. These days
>>>>> its
>>>>> just as good as apple stuff, but without the high development costs of
>>>>> apple. I had a tablet running on 4.1 jellybean and it worked fine. My
>>>>> android marshmallow tablet is better than that one and I'm sure
>>>>> android
>>>>> nougat and the later oreo will be even better. but not really because
>>>>> everything in android is an app. so i get webview virtual web buffer
>>>>> updates
>>>>> and talkback updates and accessibility API updates even though my
>>>>> devices
>>>>> may still be on android marshmallow and lollipop.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   On 11/9/2017 12:37, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh, you won't need to buy an iOS device for the Blind Fold games.
>>>>> Why?Well, Apple changed some format; the developer MUST MIGRATE to the
>>>>> newformat for continued development.  Developer believes that such a
>>>>> migrationwill be an expensive proposition and therefore unwilling to
>>>>> dance
>>>>> to thesound of Apple's drums!  Therefore, there shall be NO FURTHER
>>>>> development orupdates for Blind Fold games.   In addition, developer
>>>>> only
>>>>> made money within a three-month period followingrelease of games;
>>>>> otherwise,
>>>>> it's flat land here and there. I wonder why the developer never gave
>>>>> thought
>>>>> to developing for Android?  Ohwait, I know; Android IS NOT
>>>>> accessible!!
>>>>> No,
>>>>> it is ONLY PARTIALLYaccessible and NOT ENOUGH blind users!! Anyway, if
>>>>> I
>>>>> can
>>>>> find more extracts from the developer, I'll post in thisspace.
>>>>> Sincerely,OlusegunDenver, Colorado  ---This email has been checked for
>>>>> viruses by Avast antivirus software.https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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