Hi, Charles. Totally agree. How many times have we followed multiple
Google links, only to find that they weren't what we were looking for.
Frankly, that's truly a waste of time.--Matthew Chao
On 11/10/2023 9:47 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Marta’s message was, in my opinion, offensive. Employment status has
nothing to do with it. We’re not asking for a huge and complete list
of links. It might be a bit overwhelming to some people when they
find 6,875 results, most of which aren’t what you’re looking for.
Also, answering a question with the results asked for is not spoon
feeding. It is directly helping. Merely telling someone to Google it
is the lazy way. If you’re too busy to provide a link, skip it rather
than sending an insult. If you’re too buty to answer, you’re too
busy. Manage your time better.
When you think you’re finished, You! Are! Finished!
*From: *Tyler Wood <mailto:tcwoo...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2023 1:29 AM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people
please give links?
Ironic - a message containing 2 words that does absolutely nothing to
help anyone in this thread or anyone reading it, but yet we’re
complaining about cluttering up the list asking for links.
I agree that research could be done. Far too many people just want the
direct link to something. I feel like internet searches should be the
basic thing people learn when they browse the internet so they can
answer their own question. On the other side of that, people here are
probably used to obscure websites and don’t realize that this is not
the same as an audio game. You don’t have to know the exact link.
Still, though, really, I think doing a quick search before asking this
question would net you the result you seek.
On the other side of that coin, I don’t think pointing fingers at
someone’s employment status or lack thereof was at all necessary or
respectful in any way as it applies to doing a search, laziness, or
any of that nonsense. The fact that it was a long drawn out message
complaining about how you work when grabbing the link would have taken
less time, lol. The irony is real on both sides here and I hope I’m
not the only one who sees this for what it is.
Yes, use your search engine of choice. If asked for the link, a polite
hey, do an internet (google, duckduckgo, privacy centric as it may or
may not be, search. It’ll show up is all that’s needed.
My first, last, and only message on this subject. TLDR – we are all
humans behind keyboards and all have difficult days sometimes. No
worries, let the games guide you and enjoy them for what they are.
*From: *haylieg2...@gmail.com
*Sent: *November 9, 2023 11:08 PM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people
please give links?
Agree completely!
Haylie
*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io <blind-gamers@groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Marda
*Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2023 11:16 PM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people
please give links?
Yes it is nice when someone is thoughtful enough to provide a link.
However, a lot of people don't have time to compile a comprehensive
resource list of links. Also, some of them, like me, haven't put
links into email enough to be comfortable doing it so I might say
something like, "Yes I know this is a PC game that it is available.
Put the title of the game into your search engine of choice.
Personally I don't like google so I use another search engine
(actually a couple) more often than google for a lot of reasons. Some
of us are working and/or on a lot of lists and we don't have time to
do all yoru research for you. Some of you, Mitch for instance, I know
you're not employed so you're home and would have more time to do
research on uyour own. When we give ideas of what to type in in order
to help someone research we are encouraging that person to become more
independent rather than expecting others to simply hand them
information and spoon feed it to them. Sure, if you're friends with
someone and want to provide a link, no problem. But if someone gives
you some information,like the mame of a game or the fact that they
found it on google, then you're perfectly able to learn to look it up
yourself especially if you have time. Expecting someone to do it for
you when you have time to do it yourself is lazy and unfair to other
people and certainly not showing independenc eor initiative. It is
showing entitlement, expecting people to do all the work for you.
It's one thing if someone is new to tech or newly blind or is
extremely busy or whatever but the point is a lot of blind people just
don't bother to learn to research for themselves and there's no reason
why they can't. The purpose of the lists is yes to share information
but it's not just to expect people to always hand you all the info
without trying to get it yourself as well.
Marda
On 11/9/2023 8:13 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
I also 100% agree, as am so sick of always hearing, "google this",
"google that", and "google the other" all the time.
Simon
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mich Verrier <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2023 3:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc
can people please give links?
Yes that is why I made this post in hopes that people would
pervade links to these things instead of like you said just
telling them to ook them up on google. So I agree with that.
from Mich.
*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io <blind-gamers@groups.io> *On
Behalf Of *Charles Rivard
*Sent:* November 9, 2023 10:29 AM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc
can people please give links?
My personal opinion is that if someone asks, specifically, for
links, and you know them, you should provide them, rather than
merely suggest that the person look them up on Google. That
would be far more helpful, which is the purpose of the list.
After all, there are times when it is still difficult to
quickly and easily find something through a Google search.
When you think you’re finished, You! Are! Finished!
*From: *Gene Warner <mailto:genewarn...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, November 9, 2023 7:19 AM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc
can people please give links?
Have you tried searching on Google for something like "forza
motor sport
pc game"? That's what I always do and it usually finds what
I'm looking
for unless the game isn't on the PC.
Gene...
On 11/9/2023 7:47 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi all I have seen people talking about games that are on
xbox as well
> as the same games on pc. but they don’t give the places
where to get
> these games? Just now I saw some one replying to a question
about where
> to get the forza motor sport game for the pc. I think and I
am Shure
> others would agree it would be helpful for some one to
compile a list of
> resources for games that are on xbox as well as the same
games on pc.
> just saying things like yep it is on pc when some one asking
about these
> games is not that helpful. It would be nice to have a list.
From Mich
> Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
>
>
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