On Nov 10, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
Who are the rats? (ornery grin)
When you think you’re finished, You! Are! Finished!
*From: *Peter Donahue <mailto:pdonah...@satx.rr.com>
*Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2023 12:39 PM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can
people please give links?
Hello Matt and everyone,
This is another example of what I call the referral
rat race.
Peter Donahue
*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io <blind-gamers@groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Matthew Chao via groups.io
*Sent:* Friday, November 10, 2023 8:53 AM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can
people please give links?
Hi, Charles. Totally agree. How many times have we followed
multiple Google links, only to find that they weren't what we were
looking for. Frankly, that's truly a waste of time.--Matthew Chao
On 11/10/2023 9:47 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Marta’s message was, in my opinion, offensive. Employment status
has nothing to do with it. We’re not asking for a huge and
complete list of links. It might be a bit overwhelming to some
people when they find 6,875 results, most of which aren’t what
you’re looking for. Also, answering a question with the results
asked for is not spoon feeding. It is directly helping. Merely
telling someone to Google it is the lazy way. If you’re too busy
to provide a link, skip it rather than sending an insult. If
you’re too buty to answer, you’re too busy. Manage your time better.
When you think you’re finished, You! Are! Finished!
*From: *Tyler Wood <mailto:tcwoo...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2023 1:29 AM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can
people please give links?
Ironic - a message containing 2 words that does absolutely
nothing to help anyone in this thread or anyone reading it, but
yet we’re complaining about cluttering up the list asking for links.
I agree that research could be done. Far too many people just
want the direct link to something. I feel like internet searches
should be the basic thing people learn when they browse the
internet so they can answer their own question. On the other
side of that, people here are probably used to obscure websites
and don’t realize that this is not the same as an audio game. You
don’t have to know the exact link. Still, though, really, I think
doing a quick search before asking this question would net you
the result you seek.
On the other side of that coin, I don’t think pointing fingers at
someone’s employment status or lack thereof was at all necessary
or respectful in any way as it applies to doing a search,
laziness, or any of that nonsense. The fact that it was a long
drawn out message complaining about how you work when grabbing
the link would have taken less time, lol. The irony is real on
both sides here and I hope I’m not the only one who sees this for
what it is.
Yes, use your search engine of choice. If asked for the link, a
polite hey, do an internet (google, duckduckgo, privacy centric
as it may or may not be, search. It’ll show up is all that’s needed.
My first, last, and only message on this subject. TLDR – we are
all humans behind keyboards and all have difficult days
sometimes. No worries, let the games guide you and enjoy them for
what they are.
*From: *haylieg2...@gmail.com
*Sent: *November 9, 2023 11:08 PM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can
people please give links?
Agree completely!
Haylie
*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io <blind-gamers@groups.io>
<mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Marda
*Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2023 11:16 PM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can
people please give links?
Yes it is nice when someone is thoughtful enough to provide a
link. However, a lot of people don't have time to compile a
comprehensive resource list of links. Also, some of them, like
me, haven't put links into email enough to be comfortable doing
it so I might say something like, "Yes I know this is a PC game
that it is available. Put the title of the game into your search
engine of choice. Personally I don't like google so I use
another search engine (actually a couple) more often than google
for a lot of reasons. Some of us are working and/or on a lot of
lists and we don't have time to do all yoru research for you.
Some of you, Mitch for instance, I know you're not employed so
you're home and would have more time to do research on uyour
own. When we give ideas of what to type in in order to help
someone research we are encouraging that person to become more
independent rather than expecting others to simply hand them
information and spoon feed it to them. Sure, if you're friends
with someone and want to provide a link, no problem. But if
someone gives you some information,like the mame of a game or the
fact that they found it on google, then you're perfectly able to
learn to look it up yourself especially if you have time.
Expecting someone to do it for you when you have time to do it
yourself is lazy and unfair to other people and certainly not
showing independenc eor initiative. It is showing entitlement,
expecting people to do all the work for you. It's one thing if
someone is new to tech or newly blind or is extremely busy or
whatever but the point is a lot of blind people just don't bother
to learn to research for themselves and there's no reason why
they can't. The purpose of the lists is yes to share information
but it's not just to expect people to always hand you all the
info without trying to get it yourself as well.
Marda
On 11/9/2023 8:13 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
I also 100% agree, as am so sick of always hearing, "google
this", "google that", and "google the other" all the time.
Simon
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mich Verrier <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2023 3:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and
pc can people please give links?
Yes that is why I made this post in hopes that people
would pervade links to these things instead of like you
said just telling them to ook them up on google. So I
agree with that. from Mich.
*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io <blind-gamers@groups.io>
*On Behalf Of *Charles Rivard
*Sent:* November 9, 2023 10:29 AM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and
pc can people please give links?
My personal opinion is that if someone asks,
specifically, for links, and you know them, you should
provide them, rather than merely suggest that the person
look them up on Google. That would be far more helpful,
which is the purpose of the list. After all, there are
times when it is still difficult to quickly and easily
find something through a Google search.
When you think you’re finished, You! Are! Finished!
*From: *Gene Warner <mailto:genewarn...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, November 9, 2023 7:19 AM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and
pc can people please give links?
Have you tried searching on Google for something like
"forza motor sport
pc game"? That's what I always do and it usually finds
what I'm looking
for unless the game isn't on the PC.
Gene...
On 11/9/2023 7:47 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi all I have seen people talking about games that are
on xbox as well
> as the same games on pc. but they don’t give the
places where to get
> these games? Just now I saw some one replying to a
question about where
> to get the forza motor sport game for the pc. I think
and I am Shure
> others would agree it would be helpful for some one to
compile a list of
> resources for games that are on xbox as well as the
same games on pc.
> just saying things like yep it is on pc when some one
asking about these
> games is not that helpful. It would be nice to have a
list. From Mich
> Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
>
>
