Your point is well taken. I too have seen this on lists although there
is a cooking list I'm on currently where there are people who will
respond favorably to questions like "How do you knwo if the meat is b
rowned fully?" So yes I get that and understand the need in cases like
that. I generally search for things on my own before bringing questions
to a list. But I know many people who don't and it's not always their
fault but I know a lot of visually impaired and blind people who really
don't bother to search and I guess I was reacting to past experiences of
that kind of thing. So I think we probably both are making valid points
and thinking of certain situations we have had. I remember asking one
time on a list how I could email someone a link and was told to copy and
paste it into my message. Well that didn't work. I never did figure
that out. If I could make it work I probably would send links
especially if I knew what they were and it wasa quick and easy thing to
do. So I would maybe write out the website or the name of the product
the person was looking for or whatever and then they'd write back and
say "But would you send the link?" Really? How hard is it to type in
the website name, go to the search box and then type in the item you
want? So I guess I was reacting to things like that which have happened
to me where it was clearly laziness or something on the part of the
person who was asking for the links. Obviously if someone has tried
searching and it hasn't worked then of course go to lists. I have tried
reading difficult to understand documentation and other such things and
then gone to lists with questions or I'd ask for recommendations related
to gaming or other things and get basically no help so I do know how
that is too. So anyway I certainly meant no insult and I don't believe
I was being insulting. Just as I don't know people's life experiences
and what has made them react in a certain way neither do they know
mine. Hopefully as we share that will help us all to better understand
and be more tolerant of each other wherever we are at in terms of
knowledge, tech experience etc.
Marda
On 11/10/2023 8:58 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Ann: You are so, so right! Another thing that these people aren’t
considering it that, just maybe, we have tried searching and did not
get the result we wanted. I joined a cooking list that was
specifically for blind people that was to give tips to blind cooks.
Stuff like, instead of saying “cook until golden brown” they would
give an approximate cooking time. It go the point where people would
ask for a recipe, and responders would merely copy from the web and
paste. No tips at all for blind cooks. I griped when being blasted
about asking for recipe modifications. I left after having been a
list member for about 10 years. This tread has become pretty much the
same. And it is all over a simple request that would have taken less
time then sending messages telling us to Google.
When you think you’re finished, You! Are! Finished!
*From: *ann <mailto:tate...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2023 5:00 AM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc can people
please give links?
Hi folks,
This thread is on the verge of getting very nasty, so this will be my
only message here.
But, what is the point of having a mailing list only to be told
'Google, google, google, and then to be called lazy if you don't or if
you disagree about being lectured on doing internet searches? I did
not join mailing lists of any sort to be told constantly to do
internet searches or to search before you dare take up our precious
time by writing to us on the list.
I've seen this so much on other mailing lists in the last few years,
and I had hoped this list would be spared all that,but apparently not. 😞
~Ann
On 11/9/2023 9:13 PM, goshawk on horseback wrote:
I also 100% agree, as am so sick of always hearing, "google this",
"google that", and "google the other" all the time.
Simon
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mich Verrier <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2023 3:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc
can people please give links?
Yes that is why I made this post in hopes that people would
pervade links to these things instead of like you said just
telling them to ook them up on google. So I agree with that.
from Mich.
*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io <blind-gamers@groups.io> *On
Behalf Of *Charles Rivard
*Sent:* November 9, 2023 10:29 AM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc
can people please give links?
My personal opinion is that if someone asks, specifically, for
links, and you know them, you should provide them, rather than
merely suggest that the person look them up on Google. That
would be far more helpful, which is the purpose of the list.
After all, there are times when it is still difficult to
quickly and easily find something through a Google search.
When you think you’re finished, You! Are! Finished!
*From: *Gene Warner <mailto:genewarn...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, November 9, 2023 7:19 AM
*To: *blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] games that are on xbox and pc
can people please give links?
Have you tried searching on Google for something like "forza
motor sport
pc game"? That's what I always do and it usually finds what
I'm looking
for unless the game isn't on the PC.
Gene...
On 11/9/2023 7:47 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi all I have seen people talking about games that are on
xbox as well
> as the same games on pc. but they don’t give the places
where to get
> these games? Just now I saw some one replying to a question
about where
> to get the forza motor sport game for the pc. I think and I
am Shure
> others would agree it would be helpful for some one to
compile a list of
> resources for games that are on xbox as well as the same
games on pc.
> just saying things like yep it is on pc when some one asking
about these
> games is not that helpful. It would be nice to have a list.
From Mich
> Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
>
>
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