Ya I only ran into this when investigating how visibility really works.
Such as visibilityChanged events and document.visibilityState do not change
for a hidden iframe. (which I guess is correct based on its definition,
because those are about the tab being in the foreground or not). The only
problem I have with this definition is that the CSS spec declares it as
"rendered" and if someone is considering that as pixels on the display that
isn't quite correct.

I did find enough stack overflow articles about people asking about
interactions with the parent document. I don't think making it work for
same origin iframes vs cross origin iframes is something that would give
much benefit.

dave.

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 2:39 PM Joey Arhar <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Oh that is what was debated here
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6850#issuecomment-1010363945>
>
> I think that the use of "document" there was about being in the viewport
> and being painted, not about iframes.
>
> Currently, isVisible doesn't look at parent iframes. I don't think there's
> anything wrong with adding that functionality for LocalFrames, but doing so
> for RemoteFrames would probably have security/privacy considerations.
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 5:17 PM Dave Tapuska <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> So how does this method work for iframes that have their visibility
>> hidden? Is it intended to work for that?
>>
>> <iframe style="visibility:hidden">
>>  <div></div>
>> </iframe>
>>
>> div's isVisible will always be true. Perhaps isVisible needs a caveat
>> that it only works for the current document. Oh that is what was debated
>> here
>> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6850#issuecomment-1010363945>
>> .
>>
>> dave.
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 6:52 PM Mike Taylor <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Given the CSSWG resolution in
>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7274#issuecomment-1130214343,
>>> LGTM1 to ship assuming we're not shipping `checkInert` with the rest.
>>>
>>> Thanks for addressing Mozilla's feedback.
>>>
>>> On 5/5/22 4:26 PM, Joey Arhar wrote:
>>>
>>> > Can you ask for signals?
>>>
>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/634
>>> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2022-May/032218.html
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 3:02 AM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:08:11 AM UTC+2 Joey Arhar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Contact emails [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> Explainer
>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/display-locking/blob/main/explainers/isvisible.md
>>>>>
>>>>> Specification
>>>>> https://drafts.csswg.org/cssom-view/#dom-element-isvisible
>>>>>
>>>>> Summary
>>>>>
>>>>> Element.isVisible() returns true if the element is visible, and false
>>>>> if it is not. It checks a variety of factors that would make an element
>>>>> invisible, including display:none, visibility, content-visibility, and
>>>>> opacity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blink component Blink>DOM
>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EDOM>
>>>>>
>>>>> TAG review https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/734
>>>>>
>>>>> TAG review status Pending
>>>>>
>>>>> Risks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>
>>>>> This feature is not particularly contentious or complicated, but is
>>>>> mostly useful in the presence of content-visibility.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gecko: No signal
>>>>>
>>>>> WebKit: No signal
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you ask for signals?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Web developers: No signals
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would be good to gather signals here as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Other signals:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ergonomics
>>>>>
>>>>> This feature could be used in tandem with content-visibility or
>>>>> details elements. Usage of this API will not make it hard for Chrome to
>>>>> maintain good performance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Activation
>>>>>
>>>>> This feature is easy to feature detect and polyfill.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Security
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no security risks/considerations for this feature.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>>
>>>>> This does not deprecate or change any existing APIs and does not have
>>>>> any risk for WebView.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>
>>>>> This feature does not need any new debugging features.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>> ? Yes
>>>>>
>>>>> Flag name --enable-blink-features=isVisible
>>>>>
>>>>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracking bug
>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1309533
>>>>>
>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>
>>>>> 103
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>
>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>>>>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>>>>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/7232
>>>>>
>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5163102852087808
>>>>>
>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussions Intent to prototype:
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAK6btwK01yGZ0LVb6M_8WdeC5OM0qfUv5T1TUO%3D1if1G%2BKogRw%40mail.gmail.com
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAK6btwK01yGZ0LVb6M_8WdeC5OM0qfUv5T1TUO=1if1g+ko...@mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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